Topic: Nautilus by Eazel

[AJ Henley]

This product looks hot, and while I can get it running on a regular RedHat7 box, I have problems getting it funtional with e-smith. Has anyone tried to install this with e-smith? They seem perfect for each other.

[guestFF]

Yo!,

RTFM, e-smith is a server product without X! installed.

This means that e-smith is build around RH7 without all the fancy X GUI etc.

Why are you posting this message in the dev forum??

[Dan Brown]

Hey, calm down a bit.  I can't see any use for Nautilus on an e-smith box, which 99% of the time is only accessed remotely, but I also don't think the FM directly addresses the question, either.  This isn't the dev forum; this is the "experienced user" forum, which _is_ the proper place for questions like this (as it would be a customization of the e-smith server).

To answer AJ's question, it'd be pretty involved, as you'd need to install all the X11 and GNOME RPMs from RedHat 7.  This wouldn't necessarily be difficult, but it could be time-consuming, and I don't see the point of putting a pretty local GUI on a server (a good remote GUI is another question, but the e-smith manager is pretty decent).

[Fred Knopff]

I think you will have better luck trying to get RHL 7 behave like the e-smith server than trying to get the e-smith server to behave like RHL with eye-candy.  At least you won't be traveling alone. There is a great book by Paul Sery : "Red Hat Linux Network Toolkit" that might guide you on the server side. The 3rd addition adresses RHL 7. This book is much like e-smith in that is is small and straightforward.  IMHO when it comes expanding e-smiths networking features I would like to see NFS and Yellow Pages before adding X. I certainly hope there are no plans to create a gooey installation (like on RHL and SuSE)which would be intolerable if you could not bypass them.  If X were a part of providing a parent for diskless workstations I could see how Gnome and e-smith could be perfect for one another.  Short of that I suggest you disconnect the monitor and keyboard and lock your server in a closet if you want to ensure the best performance for the clients that are depending on the server.  Never mind that these avenues are already being explored by projects such as LTS.  In summary if its just a workstation why not just use RHL 7.  If you want to serve X-apps ditto.  If you want to support diskless workstations RHL 7 again with the LTS binaries.  having said all that I will allow that were there is a will there is a way.  If you are tired of waiting for linux 2.4 for your Timex-Sinclair you will just have to do it yourself.

[Phil Routley]

Sounds like a good book, any ideas where to get it, or who is the publisher, so I can track it down,

and If I can include my 10cents worth,

E-smith server is a fantasic product, and I love the fact it does not have X windows installed, as there is really no need for it on a server,  well done guys,

[guestFF]

You are right Dan, my reaction was too quick and way too 'bitchy'... I appologize for that to A.J. Henly and other readers.

Regards,

H.F. Wang

[AJ Henley]

If eazel does what it seems to, I would want it not for its Xserver functionality but rather so that remote users would have an easy to use/funky gui for accessing their files. Right now, to allow people to access their files on an e-smith box (without VPN) requires any number of workarounds. the university I moonlight at wants to allow their students and faculty access to their files from home. I thought that using eazel with e-smith (they thought e-smith alone was too hard, the luddites) would allow for this functionality.

http://services.eazel.com/storage/info

[Fred Knopf]

The book is Red Hat Linux Network Toolkit by Paul Sery
http://www.idgbooks.com or mandtbooks.com

Be sure to get the 3rd edition as it addresses RHL 7

Sery co-authored a similar book with Moh. Kabir
The SuSE Linux Server also by IDG

I think I got my copies from fatbrain.

The first book was recommended to me by the fellow behind the Bitkeeper revesion control system on account of it being very focused and being managable for folks interested in administration.  As a package e-smith is set up to do much more than what Sery has set out to do. Nonetheless the book takes you through installation and configuration of the GPL RHL distro so one might consider it a very good hands-on exercise.

The second book is a little all over the place with tons of typographical mistakes. However I prefer SuSE on my personal computer so I snapped it up.

[Phil Routley]

Thanks for the info Fred

Phil