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VERY simple questions

Daniel

VERY simple questions
« on: July 14, 2001, 05:16:58 AM »
Gudday,

I am an well experienced PC/LAN admin with bugger all linux exp, but confident.. (!)

EASY questions:

1) Am I wasting everyones time with these? Should I go to www.linuxnewbielamers.org?

2) I can make ibays using e-smith which are accessible from windows clients.  Why do I need samba?

3) I assume that in order to get the "nt-style" login scripts, I need to logon to the "domain", which e-smith is configured to handle.  The win '95 client seems to do this OK, but no login scripts run, where can they be configured / edited? Does this answer Q2?

and the most embarrasing question:

4) Do I need to use a boot floppy to access the red hat linux command prompt?  All e-smith seems to have after installation is the same e-smith-manager http interface or the console.

Opinions:

5) If I know (almost) nothing at all about linux, is that alone mkae it a bad idea for me to replace a commercial 95 file serv / gateway with e-smith, or can I put it in and get it running, then hope that I can learn enough about linux before it dies and I have to fix it?

A quick look over the forums here doesn't show anything too daunting, but it's interesting when the fixes given are command-line and I still can't figure out how to "break out" of the console menu....

Dan Brown

Re: VERY simple questions
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2001, 07:19:16 AM »
1.  Not really, though I think some of them are covered in documentation somewhere.

2.  Making those ibays available to the Windoze PCs is what Samba does.  You have Samba; you just don't have to mess with hand-configuring it.

3.  Don't know.

4.  Nope, don't need the boot floppy.  Just hit Alt+F2 to get a login prompt.  Log in as "root" with the admin password.

5.  I wouldn't think that's a problem.  The nice thing about e-smith is that if you install it on decent (as in not flaky) hardware, you're not likely to have any problems unless you mess with it.

Alejandro

Re: VERY simple questions
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2001, 06:20:29 PM »
Hope this is what you are asking .
3.- Check /home/netlogon/netlogon.bat
this is the standard script login for windows clients.
has two commands one for  net time sincronization of every client and the other to let every user to acces a "server side" disk personal space.
it can be edited and modified to meet your requirements.
Windows 2000 clients need to make other changes in the way the lo on to e-smith domain, this changes has been covered by a lot of posting on this phorums try to search, cause I dont remember exactly were they could be.
Hope this help  
Alejandro

David Trask

Re: VERY simple questions
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2001, 07:37:58 PM »
> 3) I assume that in order to get the "nt-style" login
> scripts, I need to logon to the "domain", which e-smith is
> configured to handle.  The win '95 client seems to do this
> OK, but no login scripts run, where can they be configured /
> edited? Does this answer Q2?


I'm a newbie too but I've learned a lot in the past couple weeks.  One thing I learned is about the netlogon.bat......write it on a Win 98-95 or NT/2000 machine using notepad or something.  Then copy it to a floppy and transfer it to the e-smith machine.  If you use the text editor on the e-smith machine it won't work.  To copy from the floppy.....at the prompt type this   mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy  then you need to move to that directory by typing  cd /mnt/floppy   if you type  ls  you can see what is listed on the floppy.  Then type  cp netlogon.bat //home/netlogon   and that will copy the netlogon script you created to the proper place...it will ask you if you want to overwrite....type y to indicate yes.  Hope this helps a little.Daniel wrote:

Daniel

Re: VERY simple questions
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2001, 08:44:04 PM »
Thnkyou all very much, far more help than I expected to tell you the truth!

I'll finish up testing here and go ahead in the next two weeks or so.

Cheers!

Rob Hillis

Re: VERY simple questions
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2001, 06:21:20 AM »
Daniel wrote:
> I am an well experienced PC/LAN admin with bugger all linux
> exp, but confident.. (!)

It's fun, trying to work it out, isn't it?  :-)

> EASY questions:
> 1) Am I wasting everyones time with these? Should I go to
> www.linuxnewbielamers.org?

No, because they're e-smith specific questions... you're in the right forum.

> 2) I can make ibays using e-smith which are accessible from
> windows clients.  Why do I need samba?

Samba is the service which actually permits the access of files from a Windoze machine.  Creating an i-bay simply reconfigures samba...

> 3) I assume that in order to get the "nt-style" login
> scripts, I need to logon to the "domain", which e-smith is
> configured to handle.  The win '95 client seems to do this
> OK, but no login scripts run, where can they be configured /
> edited? Does this answer Q2?

> and the most embarrasing question:
> 4) Do I need to use a boot floppy to access the red hat linux
> command prompt?  All e-smith seems to have after installation
> is the same e-smith-manager http interface or the console.

Press Alt-F2/F3, which will give you a login prompt.  Alternatively, you can allow remote access via SSH through the e-smith manager (Remote Access Panel) and use a program such as PuTTY on your Windows machine to connect.

> 5) If I know (almost) nothing at all about linux, is that
> alone mkae it a bad idea for me to replace a commercial 95
> file serv / gateway with e-smith, or can I put it in and get
> it running, then hope that I can learn enough about linux
> before it dies and I have to fix it?

Get to know Linux a bit better first.  E-smith has been designed to be run and administered with almost no LInux experience, but it *does* help...

> A quick look over the forums here doesn't show anything too
> daunting, but it's interesting when the fixes given are
> command-line and I still can't figure out how to "break out"
> of the console menu....

It's easy, but like most other things, it's only easy once you get used to the basics.

David Trask

Re: VERY simple questions
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2001, 07:31:07 PM »
I left out one critical piece of info.  Do not edit the smb.conf directly....go to the main site www.e-smith.org and click in the upper left where it says "customising e-smith" or something like that and it will tell you how to edit the templates so you can make changes to smb.conf

David

bobocaca

Re: VERY simple questions
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2001, 10:52:47 AM »
Try to use webmin
www.webmin.com

which is easy to install and use

Dan Brown

Re: VERY simple questions
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2001, 06:11:17 PM »
bobocaca wrote:
>
> Try to use webmin
> www.webmin.com
>
> which is easy to install and use

    It may be easy to install and use, but it will also almost certainly hose your e-smith settings.  e-smith has its own way of storing settings, which webmin doesn't respect.