Topic: No one use netatalk now ?

[sleon (Pointcarré)]

Hello,

My sme 5.6 run nice since more than one year except for Mac OS X clients. The 1.5.5 netatalk doesn't manage correctly this kind of connexion (and it became urgent to upgrade to netatalk 2.x version).

I am very surprised to see that netatalk package is still 1.5.5 in e-smith 6.x, and still broken for Mac OS X clients...

Any one has a clue (or a package) to update to netatalk 2 ?

(I can't use smb for Mac OS X client, because Mac 9 would not share ressource fork correctly)
(I can't use Michael Soulier netatalk-1.6.3 contrib package because some users see some empty directories (wich are not :-), even if I remove .AppleDB files...)
(And when I try to compile netatalk 2.x myself with gcc on my e-smith, I have some errors during compilation...)
Thanks very much

[hardijs]

I am using extensively and sme 6 over atalk is better compared to smb (speedwise) the drawback is that atalk still is limited to 32 chas whereas smb has the 255 (?) char limit.
also see the post about the "large dir access"

[sleon (Pointcarré)]

Hello hardijs,

I have read your post about large dir acces. But do you use it with Mac 9 or Mac OS X ?
My users (only Mac OS X) have big problems with netatalk 1.5.5 when they want to copy large amount of data (with subdirectories), their shortcuts become mad sometimes too ! And they are disconnected times to times without possibility to reconnect to server until a client reboot. (they are going to hate me ;-)

Don't you have any of theses problems with e-smith 6 and Mac OS X 10.3 ?

[hardijs]

osx 10.3+sme 6 (not gone to 6.0.1 yet) - so far no problems at all.

there are no "pure" os9 systems anywhere left - I did switch and do not regret.
  the users always say that it "must"be faster and whatnot ....
though it is not main fileserver - just testing sme at the moment to switch the outgrown quantum (now defunt/merged) "snap server" - nas box with a www interface "quite like" sme. (and linux inside too - or so I think)

the usual thing about the 32 char filenames - and thus filetransfers OSX->sme may fail due to the fact that some files named inapropriately (also any symbols above 128 may make copy fail )

one more thing _ I do try to setup the atalk connections using ip address not the atalk name - thus the speeds are better (no switching phase pure atalk/ip_atalk and so on)
also if that's osx10.3+ then smb://servername is a good choice to connect - the only drawback is that it does not hide the unnecesary/afp files.

tested the gigabit net though the "real life™" tests make me feel the numbers should be lower. (this is over network using atalk)

QuickBench™ 2.1 Test Results File
©2003 Intech Software Corp.
Test file created on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 at 7:32:04 PM
Test Volume name: Home directory

Xfer Size     Sequential Read   Sequential Write    Random Read      Random Write

1 KByte      3.923 MB/sec      429.000 KB/sec    4.822 MB/sec      362.000 KB/sec
2 KBytes     7.342 MB/sec      941.000 KB/sec    7.958 MB/sec      688.000 KB/sec
4 KBytes     5.189 MB/sec      1.957 MB/sec      10.672 MB/sec     1.442 MB/sec
8 KBytes     382.000 KB/sec    1.856 MB/sec      251.000 KB/sec    925.000 KB/sec
16 KBytes    805.000 KB/sec    3.090 MB/sec      811.000 KB/sec    270.000 KB/sec
32 KBytes    17.152 MB/sec     2.973 MB/sec      21.200 MB/sec     7.601 MB/sec
64 KBytes    34.581 MB/sec     10.632 MB/sec     34.812 MB/sec     8.737 MB/sec
128 KBytes   25.463 MB/sec     11.854 MB/sec     26.333 MB/sec     13.000 MB/sec
256 KBytes   39.856 MB/sec     17.017 MB/sec     39.759 MB/sec     11.564 MB/sec
512 KBytes   32.479 MB/sec     19.062 MB/sec     33.250 MB/sec     17.026 MB/sec
1024 KBytes  39.055 MB/sec     18.982 MB/sec     40.865 MB/sec     5.370 MB/sec

Extended Test Size: 20 MB    Read: 16.449 MB/sec        Write: 23.564 MB/sec    
Extended Test Size: 30 MB    Read: 35.903 MB/sec        Write: 9.307 MB/sec    
Extended Test Size: 40 MB    Read: 25.327 MB/sec        Write: 22.944 MB/sec    
Extended Test Size: 50 MB    Read: 29.089 MB/sec        Write: 17.819 MB/sec    
Extended Test Size: 60 MB    Read: 23.636 MB/sec        Write: 17.051 MB/sec    
Extended Test Size: 70 MB    Read: 29.892 MB/sec        Write: 10.691 MB/sec    
Extended Test Size: 80 MB    Read: 32.199 MB/sec        Write: 19.491 MB/sec    
Extended Test Size: 90 MB    Read: 32.448 MB/sec        Write: 11.517 MB/sec    
Extended Test Size: 100 MB    Read: 30.154 MB/sec        Write: 10.739 MB/sec