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dhcp server and Ibook

erik de wild

dhcp server and Ibook
« on: September 15, 2001, 03:17:29 AM »
I have an Apple Ibook that I want to connect to an e-smith server gateway. The installation of e-smith is finisched succesfully and the server passed the internetconnectiontest. First I tried to use my airportcard and the airport basestation (earlier I posted a question about e-smith and airport) but it didn't work.

After that I've tried to connect the Ibook direct to the server with a cross-link cable. I configured my TCP/IP control pannel with DHCP server, ethernet built in. When I start up my Ibook it is not the e-smith dhcp server that gives the Ibook an IP-number because it is completeley out of range (169.254.249.186).
I give my laptop the client name Ibook and I didn't fill in the rest of the fields in the fille in screen on my Ibook. I did a standard installation of e-smith (server and gateway) with a static IP and I've followed all the advise on the srceens.

Does anybody now what goes wrong and what can be done. I've already tried to give my Ibook a static IP number using lynx on the console and changing the TCP/IP pannel on the IBOOK and that also doesn't work.  The indication light on the ethernetcard lights up when I tried to make contact with the server and that seems to be an indication that the nternal ethernetcard on the server is OK.

I can PING from 192.168.1.1 to localhost but I can't PING between the two ethernetcards. That seems logically because there a border between the local network and the outside world but is it correct. The server passed the intetnetaccess test and I've access to the online manual.

I have an 300 mHZ Ibook with 96 mB memory. I have installed mac os 8.6 and put in an airportcard (a wireless ethernetcard). There is also a builtin ethernetcard available.

The server is an old Pentium 1 133 PC with two different ethernetcards that are both supported by redhat 7.0, 48 mB memory. I had redhat 7.0 with gui GNOME running on this PC before I installed e-smith.

Thank you for reading my (long) story, I hope someoone can help to get started with e-smith.


With friendly regards



Erik de Wild

Dr_Hook

Re: dhcp server and Ibook
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2001, 08:00:00 PM »
I know nothing about airport cards and very little about macs.  However, since you says its not working static, and if you can verify that other macs are connecting and getting dhcp, it might be a client side issue.  Try rebuilding the the tcp/ip preferences and rebooting.  In case you don't know how to do this, goto your hard driver, system folder, preferences folder, then move the tcp/ip preferences file to the trash. I find it best to reboot then and reset the tcp/ip settings, turn off load only when needed in the advanced options and reboot again.

Dave

Re: dhcp server and Ibook
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2001, 07:46:29 PM »
Update your OS.  8.6 has a bug with its Open Transport DHCP as reported by Apple.  I had a G3 Wall Street P-Book which had the same problem, and was resolved by updating to 9.0.4 (and 9.1 is even better).  This should take care of the problem, but if you update and still the Mac's DHCP client does not see the e-smith gateway, you definitely have a problem with your ethernet connection.  When a Mac gives the 169.xxx.xxx.xxx ip it's a pretty foregone conclusion that it's network can't see outside the box.  Have you tried any other machines, i.e. Windoze or other Macs?

henk

Re: dhcp server and Ibook
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2001, 01:59:53 AM »
Volgens mij hoef je niets in te vullen. Standaard wordt AppleTalk geïnstalleerd onder E-smith. Kabeltje prik in en het moet werken.
Je zegt dat je 2 netwerkkaarten gebruikt. Een built in en een wireless. Moet je dan niet aangeven welke kaart je gebruikt?
Wij hebben een grijze G3, een Imac en een Ibook, en een paar pc's aan de e-smith gekoppeld. Zonder problemen.
Toevallig vandaag de Imac met OS 9.2 nieuw geïnstalleerd, utp kabel inprikken en werken. User account in e-smith aanmaken en lopen. Wel kleine letters gebruiken op je ibook.
Helpt dit?

henk

Re: dhcp server and Ibook
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2001, 02:00:02 AM »
Volgens mij hoef je niets in te vullen. Standaard wordt AppleTalk geïnstalleerd onder E-smith. Kabeltje prik in en het moet werken.
Je zegt dat je 2 netwerkkaarten gebruikt. Een built in en een wireless. Moet je dan niet aangeven welke kaart je gebruikt?
Wij hebben een grijze G3, een Imac en een Ibook, en een paar pc's aan de e-smith gekoppeld. Zonder problemen.
Toevallig vandaag de Imac met OS 9.2 nieuw geïnstalleerd, utp kabel inprikken en werken. User account in e-smith aanmaken en lopen. Wel kleine letters gebruiken op je ibook.
Helpt dit?

henk

Re: dhcp server and Ibook
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2001, 02:03:46 AM »
zet anders ff je email adres hier neer.
Dan kijk ik ff op de zaak hoe wij het ingesteld hebben. Ik weet het niet uit het hoofd.
Trouwens de imac had os8.5. Dus ik weet niet waar dave het over heeft.

erik de wild

Re: dhcp server and Ibook
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2001, 02:05:26 AM »
A friend of me has tried my Ibook with the settings that doesn't
work on my e-smith server on his e-smith server and it worked
just fine. It is not a problem with de ibook although updating
to mac os 9.1 is a good idea.
I think it has something to do with a strange conflict between
the ethernet cards or some other obscure hardware problem.

I will try some actions that sometimes work under linux (like
putting the PCI cards in other slots). Mayby the problem is
over when I buy an ethernetcard of the same brand and type
as the one that operate correctly although the other card
is on the support list
Thank you for your answers and your time

Erik de Wild

erik de wild

Re: dhcp server and Ibook
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2001, 01:06:21 AM »
I finaly found out what causes the problem. I spend evenings in a row to get e-smith working and now I'm here working on my little network. :)

The graphic card in the PC was a creative 3D card, a combination of a sound card and a graphical card. (model number CT 4810)
After I tried everything possible (changing the positon of the ethernet cards, installing on an other disk, working with static IP adresses etc. etc.). As a last attempt to get the network in the air I've change the card for a real graphic card. Don't ask me why but e-smith is running and I'm working on the Ibook.

Thanks for all your suggestions

Erik de Wild