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Offline holger

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« on: November 05, 2006, 12:47:00 PM »
I just bought what I would think was the perfect hardware for a home SME server:
a "VIA EPIA EK 8000EG 800MHz Fanless Dual LAN Motherboard"

I've read several places (the manual seems to be down http://smeserver.sourceforge.net/sme70/manual) that you're supposed to - Press shift and then type "smei586" to make the install CD boot in i586 mode.

But pressing shift does _nothing_ - the CD just keeps booting eventually reaching a panic.
Esc will stop at lilo - but there's no prompt and typing stuff makes no difference

What am I doing wrong?
Help appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2006, 01:28:43 PM »
I cannot comment about the need to pass a cheatcode for your particular box.  As for pressing "shift" - you have to do this at the right time... At the very start of the boot process, just after your drive(s) have been detected and before seeing "verifying blah blah"   You have to be fast, best to hold SHIFT as soon as your drive are detected, and keep it on until you see vmlinuz passing by, then you will see an entry stating "boot". Hope it helps, I have been sweating on this one many times, especially on fast systems...
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If it does not work out of the box, please fill in a Bug Report @ Bugzilla (http://bugs.contribs.org)  - check: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help .  Thanks.

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Re: Problems installing on via cpu
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2006, 02:04:17 PM »
Quote from: "holger"
I just bought what I would think was the perfect hardware for a home SME server:
a "VIA EPIA EK 8000EG 800MHz Fanless Dual LAN Motherboard"

I've read several places (the manual seems to be down http://smeserver.sourceforge.net/sme70/manual) that you're supposed to - Press shift and then type "smei586" to make the install CD boot in i586 mode.

But pressing shift does _nothing_ - the CD just keeps booting eventually reaching a panic.
Esc will stop at lilo - but there's no prompt and typing stuff makes no difference

What am I doing wrong?
Help appreciated.


Timing is everything.

I did it just recently.

Start pressing shift before anything appears on screen.

http://forums.contribs.org/index.php?topic=34253.msg147585#msg147585


EDIT: It's grub not lilo.
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William

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Re: Problems installing on via cpu
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2006, 02:53:16 PM »
Quote from: "william_syd"


Timing is everything.

I did it just recently.

Start pressing shift before anything appears on screen.

http://forums.contribs.org/index.php?topic=34253.msg147585#msg147585

You're right - it worked thx! :oops:

Quote from: "william_syd"
EDIT: It's grub not lilo.

I'm pretty sure the CD boot loader is lilo - at least that's what it says on the screen...

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installed "successfully" but will not boot
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2006, 03:16:53 PM »
hmmm, I got the thing installed. But now it will not boot...
Just hangs at "Ok, booting the kernel."

I have a suspicion that it still installed the wrong kernel or the wrong kernel cmd line. I think I saw a "installed ... .i686 kernel" or something similar

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Re: installed "successfully" but will not boot
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2006, 03:41:21 PM »
Quote from: "holger"
hmmm, I got the thing installed. But now it will not boot...
Just hangs at "Ok, booting the kernel."

Ok, I just interrupted  the bootloader and chose the "other" boot option

Now I need to figure out how to make that a permanent option

Offline chris burnat

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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2006, 11:25:51 PM »
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Ok, I just interrupted the bootloader and chose the "other" boot option
Now I need to figure out how to make that a permanent option

If by interrupting you mean you accessed the pinguin page where you can select kernels to boot from, then all is fine.  SME will remember your last choice.
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If it does not work out of the box, please fill in a Bug Report @ Bugzilla (http://bugs.contribs.org)  - check: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help .  Thanks.

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Re: installed "successfully" but will not boot
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2006, 12:17:17 AM »
Quote from: "holger"
hmmm, I got the thing installed. But now it will not boot...
Just hangs at "Ok, booting the kernel."

I have a suspicion that it still installed the wrong kernel or the wrong kernel cmd line. I think I saw a "installed ... .i686 kernel" or something similar


As someone said, "It should just work".

If it didn't then a bug report is in order.

FYI, on my VIA C3, which booted fine after install I have the following..
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[root@c3 ~]# uname -a
Linux c3 2.6.9-34.EL #1 Tue Mar 7 23:09:43 CST 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[root@c3 ~]#

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# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#          root (hd0,0)
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/main/root
#          initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/hda
default=1
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title SME Server (2.6.9-34.ELsmp)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-34.ELsmp ro root=/dev/main/root
initrd /initrd-2.6.9-34.ELsmp.img
title SME Server-up (2.6.9-34.EL)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-34.EL ro root=/dev/main/root
initrd /initrd-2.6.9-34.EL.img


This is the first VIA/Linux system I have played with and was expecting to see i586 somewhere.
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[root@c3 ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : CentaurHauls
cpu family      : 6
model           : 7
model name      : VIA Ezra
stepping        : 8
cpu MHz         : 930.812
cache size      : 64 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu de tsc msr cx8 mtrr pge mmx 3dnow
bogomips        : 1863.94

[root@c3 ~]#
Regards,
William

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2006, 07:21:34 PM »
Just a quick note that on my EPIA-V (CenterHauls, Samuel 2) machine, I needed to use the ESC key to reach the boot prompt, not the space bar.

SME Server 7.0 set up, rebooted and boots without issues.

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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2006, 04:15:39 PM »
What kind of cases are you using for the mini-itx's? Do you want to show it off by posting a pic?

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2006, 10:38:16 AM »
Hi

I already owned two EPIA (one 5000 and on 900).
The 5000 I bought two years ago. For him I bought a 2677R case. You can see it here: http://www.linuxfacil.net/galeria/v/eletronicos/pequenos/micros/
The other one (silver with black) is the Falcon  CR51 (a barebone with epia boards).
Now I changed the boards (take the 933 Mhz from CR51 and put it on 2677R case) and selled my Falcon CR51.
On my gallery you can find other photos of them and one showing case 2677R close a normal case (HUGE difference of size).
One of best things of case 2677R is his small power consum (peak 55W) and noise (no noise at all most of time)

Jáder
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2006, 10:42:59 AM »
Quote from: "jader"
: http://tigre/galeria/v/eletronicos/pequenos/micros/


Thats an interesting link :)
Regards,
William

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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2006, 11:00:17 AM »
I´m sorry... internal name do not work! :)

I fixed the link now!

http://www.linuxfacil.net/galeria/v/eletronicos/pequenos/micros/
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