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Is the $75 Dansgaurdian GUI preventing you from filtering or choosing SME altogether?

Yes I would like the free GUI for Dansgardian ported to SME.
45 (95.7%)
No I am satisfied with the existing pay GUI.
2 (4.3%)

Total Members Voted: 32

Voting closed: July 11, 2006, 11:31:58 PM

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wallyrp

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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2006, 12:03:18 AM »
Good Afternoon,

Well, from the screenshots I seen on the sites mentioned in this thread, I'm very impressed with the work. I'll probably go ahead and try out IPCop with these add-ons installed. I have a Celeron 400Mhz laying around to use for that. I'd ultimately like to see this integrated into SME.

In my opinion, Dungog has done great work but based on appearances, this GUI looks a little more in-depth. Please note that this is not meant to detract from the extremely professional Dungog contribs. I have influenced a number of schools to purchase that contrib and still believe in it.

Got to love all the disclaimers you have to put out there nowadays. Dadblimey!

vanasdale

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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2006, 05:46:34 AM »
Quote from: "smeghead"
.. perhaps asking Marco if he knows anyone who could do the dev, and to also estimate the cost in time & $$$, would be a good start.
HTH

He did not answer my question on price setting, but here is his reply:
I've never used SME. For this reason I don't know how much time and effort it might take. Porting code from IPCop to SmoothWall can be done within a few minutes (for AdvProxy), but on the other hand there are some small conceptional differences between them that prevented some URLfilter features (time constraints, user quota, etc.) to be ever ported from IPCop to SmoothWall. Regards, Marco

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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2006, 01:04:45 PM »
May be it will be easier to help Stephen (Dungog) with his DansGuardian contrib.
This contrib *is* SME-compliant and code from dungog *is* GPL. I consider it will be faster to ask Stephen having a look at the product you wish and estimate the time/price to modify his contrib.
In fact Bounties or distribution fees are two diffrent ways to renumerate coders, but the purpose is the same : getting GPL contribs.

If Stephen offer a price, I'll be OK to feed the bounty of 100$.

Thks.
BTW : no need of webmin under SME, we have the server/user-manager and a lot of monitoring tools (including, of course, SME7ADMIN :). All contribs *must* be compliant enough to take place in the server-manager.
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"Those who are willing to lose some of their essential liberties in favour of security deserve neither and will lose both."
- Thomas Jefferson .

vanasdale

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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2006, 05:07:53 AM »
Quote from: "RvLardin"
...but the purpose is the same : getting GPL contribs.
If Stephen offer a price, I'll be OK to feed the bounty of 100$.


I am losing steam on this and have reverted back to SmoothWall.

However, I will monitor this thread to promote it.

If I owned a big biz, I would not hesitate to buy Dungog's software.  But I hope SME will provide native GUI for Dansguardian.

(the Medium and Enterprise services I would expect to keep non-business surfing to nill would be nice for a Small biz too)

vanasdale

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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2006, 11:14:52 PM »
Just to let everyone know, there are a few more features in the IPcop version.

vanasdale

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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2006, 06:16:22 AM »
Offer a pledge, cheapskates!   :lol:

mej

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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2006, 12:05:35 AM »
Quote from: "vanasdale"
Offer a pledge, cheapskates!   :lol:


I do not see this as a worthwhile exercise. Reason: Dans Guardian, while an excellent product, is not actually, really, licensed as GPL (see note).

:(

There's some wriggling but it ends up that it is NOT free to use for commercial purposes. That's contrary to the spirit at least. Look at what all the developers here are releasing GPL-wise. And Red Hat. And Linus...

(Thanks guys!)

So DG is not a general solution to the problem. If this went ahead it would  only be useful to non-commercial users (unless they buy a DG license). This may be why Dungog charges - no? We'll leave DG out of our portfolio.

<rant warning opinion coming> As a side note, *almost anything* to do with Smoothwall has been a bit similarly slimy right from day 1 (IMHO & E). We use IPCop - written by ex-Smoothwall developers of the same opinion. </unrant>

Charging for GPL is not the problem - it's the wriggling IMHO that is the problem...

MeJ


Note:
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For all commercial[2] use, upon your downloading, DansGuardian 2 is licensed under the GPL, however permission to download DansGuardian from this, or any mirror[3], website is restricted.

The restrictions on the downloading for commercial use are that you may only download it once for free. This will enable you to try out the software before making a decision to purchase a commercial licence to download it. In order to download updates, bug fixes, etc, you must purchase a download licence.
 :shock:

vanasdale

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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2006, 10:22:49 PM »
The GUI on the 2 products, advproxy and urlfilter, is awesome.  I continue to use it in IPcop.

You have a valid point of the Dansguardian backend is not "free", which I believe.

With this said, I hope to show a great interest of 40 votes on this topic of a GUI for squidguard, similar to urlfilter and advproxy for a developer.

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