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mapangojoe

For those wondering if SME works
« on: October 11, 2006, 09:45:16 PM »
Hello all.  Just a small note.  Here is a screenshot of a top output.  It shows the systems been up for 144 days.  It would have been up for longer but I had to do computer room upgrade.   During this screenshot the system was doing a full metal backup, it had at least 60 users attached to it for IMAP mail, and file services.  The webserver was delivering web content, and delivering PHP application services to dozens of inside users.

All this on an eBay used 1U rack mount box running a 1GHz P3 processor with 768MB of RAM.  Notice the server just ideling along at 12%.  I'd like to see ANYONE deliver that much with the same box running MS SBE  (I'll give you a hint, it can't be done!).

Have a great week!

 12:36pm  up 144 days,  4:05,  1 user,  load average: 0.31, 0.64, 0.84
234 processes: 230 sleeping, 4 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  2.9% user,  9.1% system,  0.0% nice, 87.8% idle
Mem:   772664K av,  763324K used,    9340K free,       0K shrd,   14432K buff
Swap:  265064K av,  125148K used,  139916K free                  570684K cached

  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
25357 root      19   0 50916  32M   364 R     7.7  4.3 628:51 rar
    6 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.7  0.0 700:03 kscand
29132 root      11   0  1120 1120   792 R     0.3  0.1   0:01 top
    1 root       8   0   484  472   412 S     0.0  0.0   0:12 init
    2 root       8   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00 keventd
    3 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:03 kapmd
    4 root      19  19     0    0     0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:04 ksoftirqd_CPU0
    5 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   5:34 kswapd
    7 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00 bdflush
    8 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:08 kupdated
    9 root      -1 -20     0    0     0 SW<   0.0  0.0   0:00 mdrecoveryd
   15 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00 scsi_eh_0
   18 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0  10:46 kjournald
  109 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00 khubd
  248 root       9   0     0    0     0 SW    0.0  0.0   0:00 kjournald
  382 root       9   0   368  316   312 S     0.0  0.0   0:00 mingetty
  383 root       9   0   368  316   312 S     0.0  0.0   0:00 mingetty

Offline raem

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Re: For those wondering if SME works
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 04:18:53 AM »
mapangojoe

>  I'd like to see ANYONE deliver that much with the same box running MS SBE
> For those wondering if SME works

I'm sure Charlie & Gordon & a few others will be pleased to know that sme7 works (that well) ...... but I suspect they already know that !
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spanna

For those wondering if SME works
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2006, 02:51:49 PM »
Seconded!

I recently moved our system at work over to SME, from Server 2003. The migration wasn't completely smooth, but it all works now. This forum and Google solved pretty much every problem I've come accross.

Our work's server is a Pentium 4 2.8GHz, 1GB RAM and four 250GB hard drives in two 500GB mirrors. It looks after the whole network, and hasn't gone wrong since I put it in 6 months ago.

Our Windows server died regularly, and often ran pretty slow when the network was under load.

I run a similar setup at home just on a smaller machine with a lot less users. Still, it's perfect.

rijelkentaurus

For those wondering if SME works
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2006, 02:58:05 AM »
For the record, I have a client of 12 users running SBS 2003.  The server is a Dell PowerEdge...1800, maybe, I forget...with a 3.0 Xeon, 2GB RAM and 10K SCSI hard drives in a RAID 5.  It runs Exchange and some light SQL for the backup (Veritas 10d).  It's nothing unusual for that to scream in the morning when everyone is checking email and logging on.  It settles down during most of the day, but 12 users shouldn't make something like that scream EVER.  SBS chokes itself with its own weight.

I am currently running Clark Connect at home, but I will (in the near future) switch back to SME7.  I became concerned at one point that this project might be dead, but it appears everything was just being rearranged.  I am very glad of that.  I like CC a lot, but SME was a little sweeter as a replacement for an SBS.  I could put this in at most of my clients and they would never know.  

For the record, both of these are the ideal server...set them up, stick them in a corner with no monitor, forget they are there.  Seems a lot like SCO or Novell...I still have clients running those that were setup 10 years ago.

Cool.  Thanks for SME!!

Offline Ryan483

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For those wondering if SME works
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2006, 05:30:51 AM »
We have a server farm where I work consisting of mostly Windows Server 2K and 2K3. It keeps me and the rest of the I.T. department busy to say the least, I'm sure some of you on this forum can relate. When the work day is over the last thing I want to do is come home to some Windows issue.

At home I run SME7 to host my website and three others as well, including a semi-popular car forum. My server is pretty weak as far as servers: P4 1.3, 256mb RAM, dual 40gb HD, etc. But you know what? It runs SME for 30+ users just fine, absolutlely zero problems, never.

Despite the hardware specs, it runs really fast too. I would not even dare running SBS 2003 or 2K3 on this machine, talk about a botttleneck! I'm glad we don't use SME at work, I would be worried about having a job :roll:

This community is not dead, alot of people including myself are working on contribs all the time.

Offline smeusr

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2006, 07:12:36 AM »
Quote from: "Ryan483"


At home I run SME7 to host my website and three others as well, including a semi-popular car forum. My server is pretty weak as far as servers: P4 1.3, 256mb RAM, dual 40gb HD, etc. But you know what? It runs SME for 30+ users just fine, absolutlely zero problems, never.


You run SME for 30+ people at home?

I love SME as well and it runs my home network for 7.  4 in one location and 3 more via VPN.

Offline Ryan483

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2006, 02:22:10 PM »
Hahah, most of them connect remotely  :lol:

Offline Mangetout

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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 05:12:04 PM »
I moved our small business email (~15 accounts) to SME from Mercury Mail Server running on Windows 98 (don't laugh, it was like that when I got here).  I don't have a great deal of Linux experience, but I didn't really need any to get up and running.  It's nice not to have to restart the server every week or two.

Offline ntblade

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2006, 11:35:37 AM »
Hi folks,

I've only deployed a few SME servers in a commercial environment.  The first was for a small Organic Veg producer it just sits there all day, every day doing their email and file serving.  I need to update it soon to v7.0 but I'm waiting on a decision from them (the client) on whether they want to run some VOIP on top.

Another does email for a round 60 users on a community wireless network.  I donated some hardware, only a duall PII with 768M RAM and the project bought two 80G Drives.  It just sits there day after day...
Code: [Select]
Completed messages: 100375
Recipients for completed messages: 100665
Total delivery attempts for completed messages: 101316
Average delivery attempts per completed message: 1.00937
Bytes in completed messages: 1370796493
Bytes weighted by success: 1439408783
Average message qtime (s): 17.5908

Total delivery attempts: 101316
  success: 100665
  failure: 0
  deferral: 651
Total ddelay (s): 1821996.664820
Average ddelay per success (s): 18.099604
Total xdelay (s): 25894.087183
Average xdelay per delivery attempt (s): 0.255577
Time span (days): 10.7549
Average concurrency: 0.0278664

End of Report


I installed one BUILT OUT OF AN OLD piii Ig 512m ram 2 X 80g hddS (wow!) in my last workplace purely to run bugzilla.  That took a wee bit of figuring out to install but again it just sat there day after day while the Dual xeon 2k / 2k3 servers kept me busy.

My own system is in a DMZ behind IPCop firewall.  It's only a PIII 700 with 256M RAM with several domains on it.  It just sits there, never breaking sweat.  My own 2k3 server recently went tits-up  (dual PIII 700 / 768M RAM) - it's file shares kept disappearing due to IIS crashing.  <sigh>

SME Server is at the heart of my new business and hope it will be for a while yet.

With the fantastic contribs we have here I'm confident that I can say, "Yes we can",  to pretty much any customer request.

There's nothing to touch it!

Anyway that's my 2 Euros worth
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