Topic: is groupware redundant to horde ??

[jodahall]

I'm thinking of following the how-to and set up egroupware, but sme7 already comes with horde which rocks.

I know groupware does way more, but i don't really need all that, all i need is webmail and calendar, well and global address book.

I guess what i'm asking is, is egroupware worth it to setup ??

[haymann]

Currently I have eGroupware, more.groupware, simple groupware, roundcube (just webmail), and another one or two that I can't recall right now installed on my SME server. I also have Zoho's Virtual Office installed on a CentOS box (haven't tried to put in on my SME, I don't have a test box and didn't want to break mine...). I personally don't like Horde's webmail very much. If it didn't butcher everything except for plain-text email I think it would be Ok though.

For me, the webmail is probably the most important feature that I am evaluating. Roundcube is very nice, it is my favorite as far as looks. It is a very nice client. The reason that I don't use it regularly is that you can only receive mail from one address, although you can send send mail as anyone (anyone, doesn't check for permissions I guess) and have multiple sending profiles. It is a young project and will get more functionality I'm sure.

eGroupWare is nice, but I found both of it's webmail components lacking. I need to be able to send and receive from multiple accounts. One of their mail components could only handle one account, and the other didn't handle pop3 very well and when you sent mail from a secondary account, it used the same SMTP settings as your original. So all of your mail was sent from the same account... I liked the rest of the software though.

more.groupware and simple groupware are ones that I didn't play w/ much . Simple groupware is very interesting, I just haven't taken the time to learn how to setup some of the modules that it comes with. You should at least go to the site and look at the screen shots... More.groupware did do a better job w/ multiple accounts, but the look and feel was hard to deal w/...

Virtual Office is my favorite so far, it handles multiple email accounts, has shared and private desktops, lets you set up groups, has a web drive component, etc.... It is free for 10 users, but $300 for more than 10. Great for a small org like mine...

I am also going to create virtual machines on my CentOS box for Scalix and Zimbra, but I haven't had time yet.

I guess what i'm asking is, is egroupware worth it to setup ??

I think you should at least check it out. It really isn't a hassle to setup, there is a how-to on this site. I found it easier to create a subfolder on my "Primary" i-bay than creating a seperate i-bay for it. I was also lazy and enabled .htaccess functionality on my server so I could pass the PHP variables that these projects needed w/ out having to figure out the whole template thing...
Ryan
Edit - Added links...

[jodahall]

wow that was some great help.  i've checked out some of the things you mentioned in your post, and you have convinced me to try egroupware.  I found the howto it looks easy to do.

thanx

[haymann]

Don't thank me yet! If you are like me playing with this stuff will keep you up way past your bedtime
Have fun!!
Ryan

[CharlieBrady]

Roundcube is very nice, it is my favorite as far as looks. It is a very nice client. The reason that I don't use it regularly is that you can only receive mail from one address, ...

That's not true. You can receive mail only from a single inbox, but multiple addresses can be delivered to that single inbox, and SME server already does that automatically.

[haymann]

You are indeed correct. I should have said it that way.
Thanks.
Ryan

[smeusr]

The Contribs section has a how-to for installing eGroupware.  It refers to an RC version of SME7 and a prepared binary for that distro.  Is the package compatible to the SME7 final?

Thanks.

[smeusr]

The Contribs section has a how-to for installing eGroupware.  It refers to an RC version of SME7 and a prepared binary for that distro.  Is the package compatible to the SME7 final?

Thanks.

[mrjhb3]

...I personally don't like Horde's webmail very much. If it didn't butcher everything except for plain-text email I think it would be Ok though...

What do you mean here?  I use horde a lot and find that it works great.  I have no issues view HTML mail, etc.  Would you give some examples.

Thanks,

John Bennett

[haymann]

I have no issues view HTML mail, etc.

Really? You don't get the little box at the top that says something about alternative parts for the message? Then you have to click on one of the links to view the HTML portion. I have unchecked the "Block images in HTML messages unless they are specifically requested" box, but if I want to see the message the way it was intended I have to click on another link. It isn't a huge deal, but it is a pain...
Ryan

[mrjhb3]

I have no issues view HTML mail, etc.

Really? You don't get the little box at the top that says something about alternative parts for the message? Then you have to click on one of the links to view the HTML portion. I have unchecked the "Block images in HTML messages unless they are specifically requested" box, but if I want to see the message the way it was intended I have to click on another link. It isn't a huge deal, but it is a pain...
Ryan

Enabling in-line HTML messages

Edit /home/httpd/html/horde/imp/config/mime_drivers.php line 59 and change from false to true.
...
/**
 * HTML driver settings
 */
$mime_drivers['imp']['html']['inline'] = false;   <--change to true
$mime_drivers['imp']['html']['handles'] = array(
    'text/html');
$mime_drivers['imp']['html']['icons'] = array(
    'default' => 'html.png');  
/* If you don't want to display the link to open the HTML content in a
 * separate window, set the following to false. */
$mime_drivers['imp']['html']['external'] = true;

John

[haymann]

Thanks. I'll try that out when I get back. Can't get VPN to connect or I would try it now...
Ryan

[mwolff]

Hello,

I have discovered thanks to you simple groupware.

I d like to know is exist rpm to install it in sme.

Thanks

Mathias

[byte]

Moving this topic to the SME 7.x contribs forum, it is more appropriate there. Thanks!