Topic: username issue

[hescominsoon]

I use capitals in my usernames.  SME won't accept that(Centos will but not SME).  How do i get Sme to accept usernames that start with a cap?

[byte]

How do i get Sme to accept usernames that start with a cap?

You can't.

[hescominsoon]

ouch.  That severely limits SME's usefulness for me and for any customers i may have in the future.  Why is it not able to be done?  What would break in SMe if you forced that by modifying configs?

[cactus]

ouch.  That severely limits SME's usefulness for me and for any customers i may have in the future.  Why is it not able to be done?  What would break in SMe if you forced that by modifying configs?

As fas as I can think of this is probably done because not all applications support the difference between lower and uppercase, for one M$ Windows treats USERNAME, Username, username and UsErNaMe as one and the same user as far as I know. And as SME Server is mainly aiming to provide a server for Windows domains (using samba). Therefore using different case is of no use and the most likely setting than is to lowercase all usernames.

This pretty old message might give you some insight on the troubles of case sensitivity in usernames: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2001-January/023995.html

[hescominsoon]

actually Active Directory is case sensitive.  Also all nt variants(nt, 2k, xp, vista) are case sensitive IME.  I run samba on Centos 4.x and use case sensitive notation all the time. 

[Stefano]

actually Active Directory is case sensitive.  Also all nt variants(nt, 2k, xp, vista) are case sensitive IME.  I run samba on Centos 4.x and use case sensitive notation all the time. 

AFAIR usernames are case insensitive.

BTW, why this is a big limitation for you? please explain..

ciao
Stefano

[hescominsoon]

AFAIR usernames are case insensitive.

BTW, why this is a big limitation for you? please explain..

ciao
Stefano

My experience with AD and many nt based machines tells me they are case sensitive..  It's an issue for me since my clients like being able to use beginning caps(and frankly so do i) and it would be waaaay to much time and expense to go around and redo every application for changing thet case of one letter.  I setup case sensitive file server using webmin and Centos often.  I was looking at SME due to the simplicity which because of the non Capital issue makes it now wrth it for me.  It's a great package for most and it's a very wel executed package...just doesn't fit the way i do things..<G.

[idp_qbn]

This may help - or not.
http://tinyurl.com/2glmcc

Cheers
Ian

[hescominsoon]

This may help - or not.
http://tinyurl.com/2glmcc

Cheers
Ian

no it really doesn't help as i can have usernames with first letter caps in Centos which is the parent distro of SME.  I'm back to Centos for my file servers..

[raem]

hescominsoon

It's a great package for most and it's a very wel executed package...just doesn't fit the way i do things..

The problem is the way you chose to do things, sme does not support your "way".

You could change your ways.

Alternatively you can lodge a New Feature Request (NFR) bug report, explaining your strong reasons for wanting the new feature and see what the devs think.

[idp_qbn]

WinNT, WInXP, Win2000, Win2003 - user-names are NOT case sensitive. Fred=FRED=fred.
Passwords ARE case-sensitive.
(From Microsoft Documentation  - compare this with filenames in Windows: polly.exe=Polly.exe=POLLY.EXE)

Linux, Unix (and all variants) - usernames ARE case sensitive . Fred, FRED and fred are 3 different users.
(This is true even if your favourite distro allows uppercase or not)

Your problems stems from the fact that you have allowed your users to dictate your security policy.

As I see it, you have Windows user Fred trying to access an Ibay as user "Fred" when the Ibay expects "fred".
There is a Samba fix for mapping user Fred to be user fred - sorry I don't know what it is, but I remember someone having to do this where I used to work in the dim mists of time.

If it is just a matter of users connecting to Ibays, get them to make a permanent connection, using a different username. (See "Tools/Map Network Drive" in My Computer - there is a link to "connect using a diffrent username". Make sure the "Reconnect at logon" is ticked).

Good luck


 

[hescominsoon]

WinNT, WInXP, Win2000, Win2003 - user-names are NOT case sensitive. Fred=FRED=fred.
Passwords ARE case-sensitive.
(From Microsoft Documentation  - compare this with filenames in Windows: polly.exe=Polly.exe=POLLY.EXE)

Linux, Unix (and all variants) - usernames ARE case sensitive . Fred, FRED and fred are 3 different users.
(This is true even if your favourite distro allows uppercase or not)

Your problems stems from the fact that you have allowed your users to dictate your security policy.

As I see it, you have Windows user Fred trying to access an Ibay as user "Fred" when the Ibay expects "fred".
There is a Samba fix for mapping user Fred to be user fred - sorry I don't know what it is, but I remember someone having to do this where I used to work in the dim mists of time.

If it is just a matter of users connecting to Ibays, get them to make a permanent connection, using a different username. (See "Tools/Map Network Drive" in My Computer - there is a link to "connect using a diffrent username". Make sure the "Reconnect at logon" is ticked).

Good luck


 

heh.  NO actually I dictate the usernames to my users not the other way around. 

[hescominsoon]

hescominsoon

The problem is the way you chose to do things, sme does not support your "way".

You could change your ways.

Alternatively you can lodge a New Feature Request (NFR) bug report, explaining your strong reasons for wanting the new feature and see what the devs think.

I did not say sme was a bad product.  I have also said SME doesn't accept cap usernames while centos does.  The decision to not acept cap usernames when centos does is obviously an SME decision since Centos is SME's parent.  I have not once said it was a bad decision.  only when i said I'm going back to Centos did the latest rounds of replies with the typical Linux snobbiness come up.  i love Linux.  I use it as the base of nearly every server I deploy.  SME is a good product..just not for me.

[raem]

hescominsoon

...obviously an SME decision since Centos is SME's parent.

Keep in mind that sme's "parent" (as you call it) used to be Red Hat, and sme only supported lower case then also.

...typical Linux snobbiness come up.

The snobbiness is your perception. I gave you clear and polite options, change your ways or if that's not possible request a change in the base.
Only by lodging a NFR will you find out if such a change is likely to be considered/added to the base.
The reasoning is that if there are strong enough reasons and  many users require that functionality, then the devs may consider including it.
Times & OS's change, what was OK for earlier situations may be less acceptable or unacceptable now.

[p-jones]

WinNT, WInXP, Win2000, Win2003 - user-names are NOT case sensitive. Fred=FRED=fred.
Passwords ARE case-sensitive.
(From Microsoft Documentation  - compare this with filenames in Windows: polly.exe=Polly.exe=POLLY.EXE)