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ibay login question

Offline ltwally

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ibay login question
« on: September 13, 2008, 02:39:03 AM »
We have mulitple websites on our SME server, each one with its own ibay.

Different people update the website content for different ibays, and have no need to have access to everyone else's content.

So... What do I need to do to set up a FTP login/password that can be used over the internet for individual ibay access?

Thanks!

Offline janet

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Re: ibay login question
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2008, 07:11:12 AM »
ltwally

Read the manual very carefully ie the ibay section, as it is answered quite explicitly there re sftp access & not ftp access, and the need to login as a valid user & then cd to the ibay.

Search these forums on sftp also for extensive practical explanations.
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
The Search & other links to useful information are at top of Forum.

Offline ltwally

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Re: ibay login question
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 07:14:47 AM »
ltwally

Read the manual very carefully ie the ibay section, as it is answered quite explicitly there re sftp access & not ftp access, and the need to login as a valid user & then cd to the ibay.

Search these forums on sftp also for extensive practical explanations.

You could have just said "RTFM" and spent less time typing.

Either way, I must be doing it wrong, and was looking for some actual help.  Thanks Mary.

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Re: ibay login question
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2008, 07:27:25 AM »
http://wiki.contribs.org/FTP_Access_to_Ibays

Please, not be rude with the people who want help you, OK?
« Last Edit: September 13, 2008, 07:29:09 AM by Normando »

Offline ltwally

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Re: ibay login question
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2008, 07:37:44 AM »
Being told RTFM is not help, no matter how "politically" it is phrased.  It's no-where near help.

It is, however, a great way to drive people away that might otherwise become valuable members of the community.

If my saying so is "rude," then so be it.  I will not apologize for voicing indignation at not only not being given the answer, but instead being told to go read something that didn't give me the answer in the first place.

Offline Normando

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Re: ibay login question
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2008, 07:52:03 AM »
indignation? You feel indignation when other people help you FREE?
Wrong way for become valuable member of the community.
Last reply from me.

Offline janet

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Re: ibay login question
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2008, 01:39:38 PM »
ltwally

Laziness is a curse, expecting others to do the reading for you is even worse !
Time for you to get off your high horse and start acting smart and take advice when it is given.
You are now displaying your ignorance when the answer is in fact in the manual, which you claim it not to be. Note particularly the last paragraph, which I quote first to emphasise the answer:

It is possible to upload files using FTP, but to do so you must login to the server with a valid user name, not the i-bay name. That user account must be a member of the group that has been given write permission for the i-bay (configured on the i-bay screen). You would then change to the i-bay directory (using the ftp command "cd ../../ibays/ibayname"). You will now be able to upload files from your FTP client to the appropriate directories.


Which comes from here:
http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:Administration_Manual:Chapter14

To quote here for your benefit as you are obviously too lazy to open the manual and read it:
Accessing the i-bays

You can access the contents of an i-bay using a web browser, Windows file sharing / AppleTalk, or FTP.

    * accessing an i-bay using a web browser (via http): To view an i-bay using a browser, enter "www.yourdomain.xxx/i-bayname". For example, the URL for Samson's Farms i-bay is "www.tofu-dog.com/samfarms". Assuming you are entitled to access this i-bay, you will see the index.html page in the html directory in the Samson's Farms i-bay. If a password is required to see the contents of the i-bay, a password dialog box will appear before the contents of the i-bay are served to the web browser.
    * accessing an i-bay via Windows file sharing and ~AppleTalk: To access the i-bay using Windows file sharing or AppleTalk, simply navigate to the server over your network browser (in Windows, this would be via "Network Neighborhood") and select the i-bay you want to enter from those appearing. You can only access an i-bay in this way if you are on the local network.
    * accessing an i-bay via the FTP server: To access the i-bay using FTP, you use your FTP client to connect to your server and use the i-bay name as the login id. If the i-bay requires a password, you will need to enter the i-bay password as well. If you are using a command-line or graphical FTP client, you will usually be prompted for the login username and password. If you are using a web browser, you will need to enter a FTP URL. This will be in one of the following forms, depending on whether or not a password is required:

 ftp:// ibayname @ftp. domainname
 ftp:// ibayname : password @ftp. domainname

   Warning:
   Be aware that FTP transmits all passwords in the clear without encryption and can therefore be a security risk. If you are concerned about security, we suggest you consider the scp "secure copy" command associated with ssh as an alternative to FTP.

    * Note that users accessing the i-bay via FTP in this manner are not able to upload files to the i-bay. They can only download files from the i-bay to their client.
    * It is possible to upload files using FTP, but to do so you must login to the server with a valid user name, not the i-bay name. That user account must be a member of the group that has been given write permission for the i-bay (configured on the i-bay screen). You would then change to the i-bay directory (using the ftp command "cd ../../ibays/ibayname"). You will now be able to upload files from your FTP client to the appropriate directories.



To emphasise again, if you want more practical/specific answers/examples then search the forums on sftp, as you will find  exact answers to your issue, which are really just a rehash of what has been said above, as your question has already been answered many times, so no need repeating it here.

The smeserver-remoteuseraccess rpm will also make configuration easier but is not strictly necessary, which you would have found if you bothered to search on sftp as advised.

Next time don't be so smug and smart to ignore the answer when it is shoved right under your nose !


....and as you have been further advised there is a whole section in the wiki specifically on ftp access (which should really be sftp access for security reasons), which you would have also very easily found if you bothered to read the Howto page
http://wiki.contribs.org/Category:Howto
« Last Edit: September 13, 2008, 01:44:29 PM by mary »
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Offline ltwally

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Re: ibay login question
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2008, 05:22:58 PM »
Laziness is a curse, expecting others to do the reading for you is even worse !
Time for you to get off your high horse and start acting smart and take advice when it is given.
You are now displaying your ignorance when the answer is in fact in the manual, which you claim it not to be. Note particularly the last paragraph, which I quote first to emphasise the answer:

Mary, I looked first.  I did not find the manual entry that I want.  Perhaps if I had unlimited hours in the day - but I don't.  If searching the manual for 15 minutes does not reveal the answer, then I post for help.

I don't post with the hopes, "maybe someone will insinuate that I'm lazy and just give me a politely worded RTFM."  I post with the hopes that someone can either give me the straight poop or link me to the the correct area.  Normando did that, and I am grateful for that.  Thank you, Normando.

I am not grateful to what you feel was advice - I find it to be quite condescending when some stranger's "advice" is a generic RTFM.  People asking for advice don't want to be told RTFM.  They want something actually helpful.  A direct link to the correct answer, if not the correct answer itself.  Anyways, I got the answer I needed.

Best of luck.

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Re: ibay login question
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2008, 06:03:26 PM »
Being told RTFM is not help, no matter how "politically" it is phrased.  It's no-where near help.

Itwally,

Almost every one of your posts in this community are you asking for help.  In a couple of your posts you give out some half assed advice and the remaining are you crying because you didn't get what you wanted.  Almost EVERY question you ask could be answered if you would just read the manual so I will tell you not so politically...

GO READ THE FREAKING MANUAL, ALL OF IT!!!

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It is, however, a great way to drive people away that might otherwise become valuable members of the community.

You have not exhibited anything that would designate you as a "valuable member of THIS community".

STOP crying like a baby and START contributing or take your own advice and just GO AWAY.

Once again you have managed to steer a topic to "I didn't get my way, I think I will complain" and once again another one of your threads is getting locked.

« Last Edit: September 14, 2008, 07:49:14 AM by pfloor »
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