Topic: Mythtv warning

[christian]

As I was rebuilding my server today on 7.3, I noted that ATRPM no longer has mythtv 0.20.2 which was the last version to support mysql4. Only > 0.21 is available now from ATRPM which requires mysql5.

I've update the How-to accordingly.

I do have the 0.20.2 rpms available (luckily I had them in my yum cache) if someone needs them. This would be the easier path for you until SME 8 is available.

I would recommend against updating to mysql5 before SME 8.

Christian

[ntblade]

Hi Christian,
How do I get the required RPMs please?
Norrie.

[electroman00]

Which Howto did you update.??

There are a number of MythTV articles in the wiki.

Then others will know exactly and collaborate with you on it.

[christian]

Which Howto did you update.??

There are a number of MythTV articles in the wiki.

Then others will know exactly and collaborate with you on it.

To my knowledge, there is only one: http://wiki.contribs.org/MythTV

You can find it by the above link or looking into the "How To" section of the wiki.

There is a depricated version which was removed from the wiki by RequestedDeletion when I created this version; though it may still be found through searches.

If you do know of other versions available via a method other than search then let me know, I'll take care of it.

Christian

[christian]

Hi Christian,
How do I get the required RPMs please?
Norrie.

I have them if you need them but you may also find them in your yum cache in an existing system.

try also

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find / -name mythtv\* -print

 If you can't find them then I will make arrangements with the contribs team to put them somewhere on contribs.org.

Christian

[ntblade]

Thanks for the quick reply,
I don't have them in an old cache so if you could talk to the team that would be great.  Would I just do a yum local-install then?

N

[christian]

  Would I just do a yum local-install then?

yes.

I suspect you are impatient as I was when this happened to me. Losing MythTV is surprisingly difficult to deal with

I'll put it up on my server today so you can get at it.


Cheers,
  Christian

[ntblade]

I'm actually very patient as I've never managed to get it going yet! A combination of unsupported hardware (should be fine in v8.0) and the warning you pointed out plus few other hitches have stumped me.  However, I don't give up easily!

I've tried a couple of the mythtv "distros", knoppmyth, mythdora and mythbuntu.  Of these, knoppmyth seems to be the least bloated but they're not running on the great SME are they?

Thanks,
N

[christian]

no. Knoppmyth is loosely based on Knoppix and Debian. I like it and use it a lot for my front ends.

I've also been considering using a VM to run the backend which could be accomplished if you have a USB capture device. In theory XEN will allow a guest to see PCI cards if that is what you are dealing with.

I currently use a PVR500 (works great) but will move to HD-PVR when I have some time.

[ntblade]

I also considered running my mythtv server as a vm.  Only xen has pci passthrough and I've not yet tried xen as a host on sme.  It doesn't seem to be as well documented.

I've two Nova-T cards (the new 90003 ones) that aren't yet supported under 7.3/4 but should be OK when 8 comes out (I wish it were here now)

Cheers,
N

[christian]

to get you going, I've put the RPMs here:
https://szpilfogel.com/webshare/mythtv/

user:mythtv
password is the same as the username

Download and then install via:

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yum localinstall mythtv* libmyth* --enablerepo=atrpms --enablerepo=dagThat should be all you need to do.

Christian

[ntblade]

Thanks but:
404 The requested URL /webshare/mythtv/ was not found on this server.
N

[christian]

strange. But I was doing some upgrades this afternoon which may hove got in the way.

if you still can't access it now (should all be stable), then send me a private message so we can figure it out.

try also https://www.szpilfogel.com/webshare/mythtv/

to see if it makes a difference. Note the www (shouldn't have made a difference). also ensure you used https.

Christian

[electroman00]

Problem

The requested URL /webshare/mythtv/ was not found on this server.

One soultion
Modindex
http://www.schirrms.net/files/smeserver-modindex-0.0.6-01.noarch.rpm

[ntblade]

Sorry, still 404
N

[christian]

silly me. My gateway is an SME derivative and intercepts port 443. I'll have to get around to changing that.

try:
https://www.szpilfogel.com:8443/webshare/mythtv/

[ntblade]

Got 'em!
Thanks
NTB

[ntblade]

OK,
Had some problems...
Setup on vmware VM, clean 7.4 CD install, yum update:
Connecting to VM via putty, Xming.
Whe I do:

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mythtv-setupI was unable to completely run through the setup as the G.A.N.T. Theme was not found. Started again and didn't install the 0-21 themes which allowed me to run the setup but I couldn't run the frontend.  Changing the theme via phpmyadmin to "blue" I'm able to run the backend setup and the frontend but this is all I've tried.

I think I might be best to run a separate knoppmyth machine until 8.0 comes out.

Thanks
N

[christian]

ntblade,
you may enjoy the new how-to I did. But if you are running all of it in VMWare, I was able to run frontend through the VMWare 2 console. I installed KnoppMyth on VM Instance and it works great. I'm still using 0.20.2 for now as I wanted a known config as I moved things around (wanted to preserve my database and all my front end settings). Once it is proven out for me, I will upgrade all to 0.21 base. So far I like this setup better and customizations become more controlled.

Be aware that for Knoppmyth, you will need to configure your hard drive as IDE not SCSI. This stumped me for a bit. Also note that VMWare will not give you access to a PCI capture card.

For proper shutdown, you will also need to install vmware tools.

Christian

[christian]

I was unable to completely run through the setup

If you run it on SME at all (even in a VM), you will need to use X11 forwarding per the How-to. Otherwise you will be installing X all over the place and having fun determining what is missing; just as you've come to discover.

[christian]

I should point in two posts above that I run a Master Backend (no capture cards) in a virtual machine. I run the SME end as a Slave only on the SME itself and connect it up to the master.

[ntblade]

Thanks for the replies,
I did configure X11 forwarding - I'm using Xming on an XP machine.  Both the frontend and backend work but there was still the issue of the themes not being found.

I would really love to have the whole lot on one single box but until my hardware is supported (hopefully in 8.0) I'll run two boxes.

Will you be updating the howto when 8.0 arrives?  I'd be happy to help with testing etc.
Thanks
N

[electroman00]

8beta2 is available if you want to give it a test drive.

HTH

[ntblade]

I did give 8b2 a run but I got a but lost with yum updates and repositories.

N

[electroman00]

Download the rpm's to the machine and yum localinstall

[christian]

I would really love to have the whole lot on one single box but until my hardware is supported (hopefully in 8.0) I'll run two boxes.

Or you could run a master backend as a VM guest and then use it to wake a slave backend for recording. Thus you have a responsive master and power efficiency.

Will you be updating the howto when 8.0 arrives?  I'd be happy to help with testing etc.

Likely yes. though I may be limited to testing only the slave backend aspect of it now so the help will be appreciated.

I must say that now that I use the SME base only for the slave backend a number of complexities have gone away.

Now that I have my database on a VM guest and running mysql5, I'm going to move forward to Myth 0.21-fixes. Once stable, I'm going to work on adding a couple of Hauppauge HD-PVRs!