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Server TEAM: Is it possible to create a SME8 forum category?

Offline judgej

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Re: Server TEAM: Is it possible to create a SME8 forum category?
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2009, 03:08:33 AM »
Did it perhaps ever come to your mind that these are the people working to improve SME Server and they require users to adapt to a small set of tools to do so (the best)?

ALso consider that users have legs. If you put a barrier in their way, they will walk. I've seen it happen on other projects, and I can see it happening here.

-- Jason
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Offline CharlieBrady

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Re: Server TEAM: Is it possible to create a SME8 forum category?
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2009, 12:23:22 PM »
Nobody has said not to report bugs to the bug tracker, as you can see by peoples replies,  everybody agrees that all bugs need to be reported to bugzilla and that bugzilla is a very valuable tool for developers.
But I don't understand why is it so hard for developers to understand that beta testers need more than just a way to report bugs, they need community for other, non bug related issues.

What other non bug related issues are there which concern beta testers?

Offline Tillebeck

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Re: Server TEAM: Is it possible to create a SME8 forum category?
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2009, 01:10:29 PM »
Glad to see that most are positive about the forum :-) Not many reasons not to create one then so I really hope to see the SME8-bete category in the near future.

To CharlieBrady - reasons for forum for SME8
  • to get the feeling of not beeing a lone with a beta version.
  • validate if a bug is a bug (good rules has been suggested in the thread, e.g. dmay suggesting to add a link to the opened bug)
  • ask for support - "how do I"
  • Give tips and tricks to others that should not go into the wiki (since they are temporary and relate to a beta version). E.g. I have upgraded to php5.2 and even though not recommended then I can tell how I did it
  • discuss what has been tested, how, why, use of this beta version, how it runs on different hardware etc. etc.
  • Generally get the "forum" feeling of the product

Most of the above is not bug related.

Here is my only SME8 bug in the bugtracker: http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4770
That could have stayed in the forum and should never have made it to the bugtracker. As a part of the bug (feature request) was a request for help and the answer to that was that the bug tracker not is a support forum... in a way a good answer and therefore I requested the SME8 forum so I had somewhere to go for the support and discussions that should not go into the bugtracker.

So please, create the SME8 category and lets evaluate to see if it is a good or a bad thing

BR. Anders

Offline cactus

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Re: Server TEAM: Is it possible to create a SME8 forum category?
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2009, 03:03:50 PM »
Here is my only SME8 bug in the bugtracker: http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4770
That could have stayed in the forum and should never have made it to the bugtracker.
I diasagree as you could have also noted from the bug that we used valuable information you guided us to in the wiki.
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Offline slords

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Re: Server TEAM: Is it possible to create a SME8 forum category?
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2009, 04:51:07 AM »
This issue is closed.  There will not be a SME8 beta forum.
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