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Avira antivirus software instructs to get it, install it and run it

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purvis:
If we could upload files there would be less errors from cutting and pasting.
I had asked for permission a couple years ago to see if I could edit on wiki
That never came.
So as far as errors. I will let others edits flaws

janet:
purvis


--- Quote ---If we could upload files there would be less errors from cutting and pasting.
--- End quote ---

Well if you ask for access to a user contrib area, you can upload files
ie here
http://distro.ibiblio.org/smeserver/contribs/
IIRC you send an email to admin@contribs.org requesting that type of access, or it might even be achieved nowadays by lodging a bug request.


--- Quote ---I had asked for permission a couple years ago to see if I could edit on wiki, That never came.
--- End quote ---

Did you ever follow up ?
Remember this place is run by volunteers & some jobs get overlooked or lost in the pile of things to do.

The correct & only place to ask for wiki edit access is in your Forum user profile
Select Profile at top of Forums, select Group Membership, then under Wiki & Docs Team section click on Request Membership
Wait a day or a few days & someone should let you know.
If you do not hear back within say a week, then follow up at admin@contribs.org


--- Quote ---So as far as errors. I will let others edits flaws
--- End quote ---

That is quite an irresponsible attitude.
If you are creating code (even basic simple scripts etc), then you have an inherent responsibility to make it as good as you can, & certainly without fundamental errors or
"flaws", when you first release it to the world. From some of your posts you seem to be releasing scripts, announcing it is under test, and then correcting problems or mistakes or "flaws" after the event.
At least run some comprehensive tests, wait a while, run them again, make sure no other issues surface, wait a while again, test again fully on a clean system to ensure repeatability, and then release your code. The world is not in that big a rush to receive the gift of your code, we all would probably prefer the bugs or at least basic functionality to be sorted out before you release.

As Stefano hints at, some people who are less experienced or less knowledgeable at reading or writing code, will assume your scripts are good & fully functional, and jump in and start using them, simply based on the fact that you have published them here, and so therefore they must be OK. They then get into trouble when they have problems & have difficulty sorting out why it is not working etc (having expected that it would work in totality).

So please be more careful when releasing code or scripts, please test it a little more to ensure the basics are correct.

I am in no way criticising your efforts, just asking you to be more considerate when you actually publish.

By the way, the "wait a while" suggestions are very important, as it allows your mind to clear out everything you have been doing code wise, & when the mind has been cleared you will then more easily see things you have overlooked or could have done better or perhaps even see a totally different approach. So "waiting a while" before releasing, allows this processes to happen, thus improving your first release versions of code or scripts.

purvis:
No code is perfect. None.
I did take insult that you would think I do not test my code.
There is probably over a week(not the 40 hours but likely over 100 hours of testing and 24/7 of me testing and running of code on production units) of all code that get posted here to my scripts. That is a lot of hard hours that most would not even put in to try to over come some improvements to the server system.

I have been working on viruses coming into one location for over 2 months now and that has me worried a lot.

I do not post code that I think is harm full. I take the high ground and safe approach.
When creating scripts, or any code, you get the code to working then the second step is to improve the code.
Very few people work with any of ix systems directly. Because of so many different operating system setups, that is what has hurt the spread of of ix systems in my opinion. So help is not found just around the corner and not even in books. I have never seen an expert book or even a book on SME SERVER.

Usually when script or code is placed on this site. Others users have input on it and can improve it or the commands. We get to learn from that.  SME Server is not a generic server and there is a lot of work, CAN I STRESS A LOT OF WORK,  that went into the development and on going fixes to keep it running. I have no control of what is going on with the main parts of SME SERVER. It is very complicated to say the very least.
So any code or installed program has to play well with all the complicated stuff in the SME SERVER.
 
Any code that I post is for two reason. I like to share and I like for others help improve the code where it might help them.

I cannot control code that comes from others sources. I get very aggravated when some thing is suppose to do it job and does not do it. And when it was working and then it is not working is very upsetting. Changes are going to happen. That is one thing that you can count on whether you like it or not.

If you do internet searches on any piece of code or software . You will always find lots of problems on every piece of code that exist. That is just the way it is.

I also do not like any negative attitude or remarks. Positive criticism is not negative. Negative and uncontrolled remarks will always addressed. Nobody saw me making any bad remarks about me not being allowed or being able to do wiki post. Actually I have never done anything wiki. But I went on my way and did not complain.

I think there could be an area on the forums for testing works of code if possible. As far as I know, that is what the contribs forum area was made for. Then a wiki can be produced only after that it is safe to assume the work on the code has come to a somewhat completion.

purvis:
Thanks Stefano, I did not know that.

I get so frustrated working with many editors.
I am sure to a geek some power full editors are great, those editors can get you in trouble quick as well.
But to the most of us, a good basic editor is all that is needed.
I have always thought of nano as being a editor and not a word processor.
I am going to do some nano learning or maybe even look for a better editor.
Edit on windows is about as good as simple editor gets. But linux does run that.

janet:
purvis

I think you have overreacted a little and/or misunderstood my sentiment.
I NEVER said you do not test. I even said you annouced you are testing. Please read what I said carefully.
.....and that is what I said about your code, to be more careful when releasing it & to test more before releasing it, and I even suggested a more thorough testing regime.

The whole point I was making was for you to improve your code further first, before releasing it with obvious issues, and one of the ways to achieve that was to test more & to test for longer on multiple clean setups. Had you done that then probably the following scenario would not have happened. If it is not obvious to you, I was trying to help you perform better.

ie on 25 March you said you were running scans (tests I assume by that), and then on 26 March you withdrew the whole attempt by saying

"I am having issues with Avira today.
I will get back with anybody.
I believe at this point it was wrong to let Avira setup any symbolic links, cron jobs, or anything else from the install
I am reinstalling.
If you have not set up Avira.
Then hold off.
I am not sure exactly the issues i am having other that Avira has some very stupid setup and updating routines."

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