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What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'

Offline janet

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2013, 11:12:17 PM »
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So what was the benefit to this community of this board again please, except from stating there is a self appointed board?

Hsing, you really need to mellow your attitude, or to use a vernacular expression, "get off your high horse".
People are trying to do things & you continue to derride them.
What has happened & the processes involved have been adequately explained for my & many others liking, based on various comments read.

You use the phrase "self appointed" as if there was something wrong with it.
We are all self appointed as I see it.
We all voluntarily make our personal efforts for the continuance & betterment of sme server.
No one here gets paid a salary to my knowledge.
No one is being forced to do work for sme server.
We could all walk away anytime & use some other distro if we really wanted to or had to.

You chose to self appoint yourself to the board & then chose to resign.
If people did not self appoint themselves then nothing would start, nothing would happen, there would be no sme server.

Further on from that though, the acceptance of the board by this community was voted upon & agreed by those who made the effort to vote.
No one forced these people to vote, they took that self appointed action to do so.

Really Hsing, if you want to see change, then self appoint yourself to do something & get in & assist (despite the comment in your most recent post that you do not want to do certain technical things).
You do not have to like a certain way people are doing things, but you do have to co-operate with those who are also involved.
This co-operation needs to at least be a civil & workable level of social interaction & communication, & generally speaking you need to follow or adhere to the consensus agreed upon game plan.

As far as I read (which is publicly available to read), the board are working on various matters.
Not everything happens instantly.
Volunteer your efforts to build the web site for Koozali if you want to see something happen faster than is happening.
Volunteer your efforts to create the sme server 8.1 iso if you want a new release faster than someone else will do it, Shad advises that all the information is available to do so.
Just do it, & everyone will be thankful.
What is your problem with that approach ?
It would be far more productive than all your whingeing words that you have written lately.

As I said though, you do need to have civil communications & make a conscious effort to  "get on" with those "in charge" or "in control", as well as "getting on" pleasantly with the rest of us.
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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2013, 11:15:11 PM »
RequestedDeletion, you really have no idea what it takes to develop, maintain, produce, and push SME server.  Feel free to try and setup something up and maintain it yourself.  Then come back and make comments.  Right now you just look foolish stating things that you don't know anything about.

Shad, please stop your silly defence.

Just hand over the SME Sever content to the community. Keep your silly scripts and other 'magic' and I do not have to prove anything, and let the community prove otherwise. I will back off if you do provide all current content. Heck, I will keep silent for 5 years if you do. You can do many things, but in my opinion

YOU ARE NOT SOCIALLY ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY

What is the real problem here please?

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2013, 11:16:28 PM »
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Hsing, you really need to mellow your attitude, or to use a vernacular expression, "get off your high horse".
People are trying to do things & you continue to derride them.
What has happened & the processes involved have been adequately explained for my & many others liking, based on various comments read.

An who are you please?

Offline Stefano

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2013, 11:17:41 PM »
What is the real problem here please?

maybe you and your attitude?

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2013, 11:27:49 PM »
Please show me the petition of 4000 names demanding this leadership.  I'll I'm seeing is one individual throwing a tantrum because he can't get his way.
Oops, you never wondered for who you 'stewarded' the distro?

Shame on you Shad. A real steward and/or leader/maintainer would know what's gong on and would serve a real purpose. But then again you personally know for you personally are the only one that collects the mandatory SME Server feedback notices. Wether it be the 'internet connection test' or the mandatory 'SMOLT" service that reports every single SME install to one of your (Clear OS) private servers. SMOLT is was an 'opt-in' service. You made it 'active by default' without an 'opt-out- option. Completely against international privacy rules.

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2013, 11:31:42 PM »
maybe you and your attitude?

Maybe, but in the mean time I did not called anybody retarted or ready for mental care. You did, and despite the opportunity, and as a board member, you never apologised for your attitude.

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2013, 11:36:30 PM »
Really Hsing, if you want to see change, then self appoint yourself to do something & get in & assist (despite the comment in your most recent post that you do not want to do certain technical things).
You do not have to like a certain way people are doing things, but you do have to co-operate with those who are also involved.
This co-operation needs to at least be a civil & workable level of social interaction & communication, & generally speaking you need to follow or adhere to the consensus agreed upon game plan.

No can do.

I want to start a separate effort to the benefit of the Open Source community. But as you can read from Shad's response, he will not share anything, for he alone is in full control. Despite the board puppets.

And that puppet board is accepting this by means of complete silence, complete absence and complete lack of vision. Let alone any progress at all.

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Offline janet

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2013, 11:40:57 PM »
To a Moderator & Forum Administrator

I humbly request RequestedDeletion be banned from these Forums for unacceptable behaviour.
I personally do not want to keep reading his rants. He obviously has some gripes about this project, the people behind it & the decision making process, but to continue his personal attacks on good members of this community is UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR, & as far as I know is not accepted by the general rules under which this community operates.

I have had enough of him, & I am sure many others have also had enough.
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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2013, 11:45:48 PM »
To a Moderator & Forum Administrator

I humbly request RequestedDeletion be banned from these Forums for unacceptable behaviour.
I personally do not want to keep reading his rants. He obviously has some gripes about this project, the people behind it & the decision making process, but to continue his personal attacks on good members of this community is UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR, & as far as I know is not accepted by the general rules under which this community operates.

I have had enough of him, & I am sure many others have also had enough.

Really? what is my unacceptable behaviour on these forums please?

I may speak my mind and I may discuss topics. Unlike Stefano, I did not call anybody names. Could it be you (Greg = Janet) are trying to get me of the forums/lists to your own benefit and try to put me in a bad position??

Easy talk if only Shad or Chris can moderate. Your personal pals. But it looks nice if you try to look like an innocent forum member. Oh deer. (But many know who Janet is, so stop the b**sh**)

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2013, 11:52:07 PM »
I humbly request

I humbly request you stay out of this unless you tell me/us your real name. You were never part of the board, the preps or the follow up. So please keep quiet. You are welcome to read tho, just like everybody else.

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Offline chris burnat

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2013, 11:53:54 PM »
HF, please desist from further inflamatory comments, you had your say.
OK?
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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2013, 11:54:33 PM »
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I want to start a separate effort to the benefit of the Open Source community.

Then please go away & do so.
No one here is stopping you.
Virtually all content is publicly available.
Make the effort to copy it if you really feel that strongly about it & no one will agree to hand you a copy.
But please just stop your unproductive & annoying rants here in these forums.
I & I'm sure the majority of community members just want to read about positive & uplifting efforts that are productive to this community & sme server here in these forums.

Please go away & air your petty grievances somewhere else.
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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2013, 11:56:00 PM »
HF, please desist from further inflamatory comments, you had your say.
OK?
chris

With all due respect and for you, yes Chris, I will.

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2013, 11:57:09 PM »
Maybe, but in the mean time I did not called anybody retarted or ready for mental care. You did, and despite the opportunity, and as a board member, you never apologised for your attitude.

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HF, please re-read my post:
- I never thought you are retarded.. read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder
- I was talking for myself.. not in name of the board.. only me.. and no, I will not apologize.. you really need to get a life

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Re: What I do not understand about 'the board mailing list'
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2013, 12:11:03 AM »
With all due respect and for you, yes Chris, I will.

Thank you HF.
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