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Install SME Server from repos

Offline vDevices

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Install SME Server from repos
« on: December 18, 2013, 11:31:05 PM »
Greetings:

I only recently stumbled upon SME Server and must say that it appears to be very impressive. I'd like to take it for a test drive on a DigitalOcean VPS, but DO has yet to allow the loading of custom ISO images. So, I'm wondering if it's possible to deploy/install SME Server on a fresh CentOS install via the repositories?

My apologies if this question has been asked 'n answered already (seems like it'd be a FAQ, but -- for the life of me -- I haven't been able to find an answer in either the forum archives nor Google at large).

TIA,

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Re: Install SME Server from repos
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 09:51:07 AM »
So, I'm wondering if it's possible to deploy/install SME Server on a fresh CentOS install via the repositories?

I don't think its possible, as least not easily,
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Re: Install SME Server from repos
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 10:40:37 AM »
either you install a centos or a debian like and youplay with virtualisation and ip fail over
or you choose a provider who permits to load your iso
or choose to install first a centos and after you install package
http://smeserver.pialasse.com/index.php/Serveur_ovh
http://smeserver.pialasse.com/index.php/Serveur_ovh_2011
use google : smeserver ovh dedibox

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Offline janet

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Re: Install SME Server from repos
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 10:52:51 AM »
vDevices

If you search these forums on posts by RequestedDeletion (use the forum search filters), you should find references in approximately the last year or so to a VFS install from iso at a hosting company.
Hsing Foo (RequestedDeletion) got the host company to upload the sme iso & make it available for installation to a VFS, so search & try that option rather than DO.

If DO will not make the iso available for install, then there is not much you can do with them

Alternatively, & this is a very different approach that requires a sme server install to start with, is this Howto.
http://wiki.contribs.org/Thinclient_usage
I have not tried it, but it appears that you can make the sme server iso (& other distros) available to the network for (compatible) workstations to boot up to.

Really if you went to that trouble, you would just install sme server from CD on any old workstation you have for testing.
I have sme8 & sme 9 running adequately (albeit slowly), on some old Celeron 500MHz PC's with 256K RAM, a joke I know, but it works.

Once you start using sme you will be even more impressed, & when you get into using custom templates you will be even more impresssed. Then when you start to install the myriad of contribs available, you will be impressed even further.
Then finally in maybe a few months when sme9 final is released, you will really be impressed.
Although sme9 beta2/3 is already available & impressive.

It would be very hard &/or a lot of work putting sme on top of a CentOS install, but essentially that is what sme server already is.
There were some references to Scientific Linux & installing sme on that in these forums, I recall that post led to a few other things too which are very informative re how to do what you want, so again do some searching on that distro name in these forums & I think that was posted by RequestedDeletion also, about a year or so ago (??).

As far as virtual installs goes, you could setup a virtual server using Proxmox or one of many others on an existing machine, then add sme as a virtual install. It's not on the net but that may achieve what you want for test purposes. Search these forums for currently recommended virtual software that are the "better" ones to use.

Also early in 2013, development work for sme 9 suddenly started, & there was a plethora of details about how to get sme onto a CentOS 6 minimal install, so that sme 8 functionality could start to be tested when running on a CentOS 6 base. I think a lot of that is in the devinfo & perhaps the discussion mailing lists archives & in contribs.org bugzilla, so if you search there also & read the many posts that were being made, that would be very likely to give you ideas & details re how to do it. Really you are just recreating sme server, so it seems pointless to me, & an awfully complicated approach just to avoid installing from a CD or iso so you can test sme server.

Just grab any old (physical) workstation or server that is compatible with Linux RHEL & CentOS 5/6 & install sme from CD onto it for test purposes.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2013, 07:03:51 PM by janet »
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Re: Install SME Server from repos
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 06:43:22 PM »
Greetings:

I only recently stumbled upon SME Server and must say that it appears to be very impressive. I'd like to take it for a test drive on a DigitalOcean VPS, but DO has yet to allow the loading of custom ISO images. So, I'm wondering if it's possible to deploy/install SME Server on a fresh CentOS install via the repositories?

There is really no point in doing that, as SME is just that:  It is the UI, templating, and dbase system installed on top of centos minimal.  Many many hours go into refining this so that everything works properly.   To ever extent possible we don't modify upstream centos packages:  We use them unmodified from centos.

To answer your question more directly, I'd have to say no you can't just install SME from the repos and expect it to work.

There are some tricks to get Centos going on a VPS.  John Crisp does it quite often, but he's currently on holiday.



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Re: Install SME Server from repos
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2013, 06:19:06 AM »
vDevices,

before you follow/develop any procedure, please make sure that DO provides you with enough (Virtual) Network Interfaces on your VPS, so you can run SME Server in the required mode. Please see the wiki for details on SME Server modes.

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