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Offline JohnG

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Something "youtube-like"
« on: December 30, 2013, 07:02:16 PM »
I want to make a bunch of mp4 videos available externally and didn't want to post them to youtube for various reasons. Ideally it would involve creating an ibay, dropping in some scripts and mp4 files and creating user accounts. Googling came up with kaltura, vshare, galleryserverpro, etc but I don't know where to begin. Is anyone using anything similar or has a better idea? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 08:07:07 PM »
You might want to take a look at OwnCloud

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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 08:39:51 PM »
Hi,

I think that you should first clearly define your needs. You are talking about some (parts of) solutions that seem to correspond to very different needs, so I don't know exactly what you want to do...

Ideally it would involve creating an ibay, dropping in some scripts and mp4 files and creating user accounts.
If this is what you want, where is the problem ? Just do it ;-)

Seems that you just want some web page with a video viewer, as in Youtube ? It's easy to do with basic html. Think also that maybe you don't need a web viewer, as people could just click on a link and they will have a dialog box asking if they want to save the video on their disk or see it in their video player.

But you talk also about users accounts. It's possible to do that with ibays properties, but maybe you don't want to have many ibays. If so, you'll have to do that with some PHP scripts. Not difficult, and you have a lot of samples and tutos on the web.

And if you don't want to do that yourself, there is surely some GPL-licenced solutions ready to use. Galleryserverpro seems to be a ready to use solution, but not a free (as a free speach, not as a free beer) one (I never used it and even not know what it is, just had a very quick look at their home page). Just remember that it's necessary and sufficient that it covers your needs.

Don't take things the bad way : the good way is to list your needs, clearly define what you want (including the accessibility, the presentation etc.), and then only look for the possible solutions. The bad way is to choose a solution, and try to adapt it to your needs.

[you say mp4, but...]
It's always better to use open standards, even if they are less known. Not only it's better for accessibility, but it's often easier to find GPL-licenced solutions using open formats.
[/you say mp4, but...]

As says RequestedDeletion, you could be interrested by owncloud. Depends on your needs...

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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 09:59:04 PM »
See http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation
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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2013, 12:55:42 AM »
You want http://cumulusclips.org/

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Offline jibe

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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2013, 09:44:22 AM »
Hi,

You seem very sure to know better than him what he needs  :lol:

According to the title, I could have said : "You must use http://www.dailymotion.com" ;-)

Surely, madsonic or cumulusclips are likely to fit his needs... But madsonic seems to be more for music, and is cumulusclips easy to install on SME ? What are his needs ? Something easy to install on SME8 (excluding SME9), even if it's some features are missing or not very good, or something with precise features even if he has to install it on another server (that could be simply SME9 instead of SME8) ? Simply replace youtube, in what case dailymotion could also be a solution or at least to consider ? Other needs ?
« Last Edit: December 31, 2013, 09:48:52 AM by jibe »

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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2013, 01:29:47 PM »
anyway for video the bottleneck will be the bandwidth of your adsl, by the way I have written cumulus on my Todo-list of contribs.
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Offline jibe

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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2013, 04:05:45 PM »
the bandwidth of your adsl

Who knows ? Maybe he has a fiber optic bundle with a 10 PFLOPS cluster, or an RTC connection with an old and slow computer for SME :lol: ;-)

Yes, cumulus seems interresting to make a nice contrib for SME ! Bravo et bon courage si tu veux t'y mettre ! :-)

Offline JohnG

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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2013, 04:45:56 PM »
Thanks for all the great responses!

No petaflops here, just an old athlon 64 with SME 7.1 (soon to be 8/9) with a bunch of videos on it.  I got a cable connection with about 34Mb down and 21Mb up with a dynamic ip. Should be fine for the 2 or 3 simultaneous connections I'd expect. Appearance-wise, Cumulus seems the nicest but I'm wondering how the video categories work. Ideally, after authentication, I'd like friends to have access to certain videos, co-workers to others, family to others, etc. At first glance owncloud/sonics seem like overkill but sharing audio/pics as well as video might be a nice feature for the future. And rolling my own just doesn't seem like something I can work on right now, got too many other unfinished projects for 2014. For simple and ugly I guess I could just create some ibays called family, friends, coworkers and authenticate against each, but I'd like to have something prettier and more maintainable. And like youtube, dailymotion requires posting my content externally which I'd like to avoid.

Thanks again, and Happy New Years!

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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2013, 07:10:03 PM »
I agree that you do not need to have your data in external services, it is for that i'm involved in the sme project, my web, my data, my emails @home
some ideas
dynamicIP->smeserver-ddclient
ibays with different logins->smeserver-shared-folder

Owncloud is a good product even with the flaw of php5.3.3 issue.

Nice upload...where do you live ?
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Offline JohnG

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Re: Something "youtube-like"
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2014, 03:26:26 PM »
Yes, your idea of using ddclient with shared-folder summarized what I was thinking about initially. It should work but it isn't a pretty solution. It would basically just be a listing of the video files; no descriptions, thumbnails,  etc. At least I know I have something workable if other, "prettier" options do not work out. I think I'll just start installing packages and see what they look like, starting with owncloud and cumulus, unless there are better alternatives.

And I'm in the USA, just outside of New York City. My connection is a step up from the standard cable connection, got it as a package deal, but forgot to also ask for static ip  :x