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cannot see sme 9 in local network

Offline Peasant

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Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2014, 07:59:44 PM »
i got one server and that is the sme server and there are 2 windows 7 workstations en some nas disks and a media player in my network.

Thank you.

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second server (working):

Networking Parameters
Server Mode   servergateway
Local IP address / subnet mask   192.168.2.2/255.255.255.0
External IP address / subnet mask   192.168.1.201/255.255.0.0
Gateway   192.168.1.1
Additional local networks   192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
DHCP server   disabled
Server names
DNS server   192.168.2.2
Web server   www.erik
Proxy server   proxy.erik:3128
FTP server   ftp.erik
SMTP, POP, and IMAP mail servers   mail.erik

OK, when this second server is connected, and assuming that the first one is not, and you have rebooted all workstations, what are the Windows configurations of the workstations please?
Jim

guest22

Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2014, 08:21:14 PM »
Why are the external IP addresses on both servers the same?


During boot of the seconday server that you boot, you missed the warning that the IP address of the external IP is already taken.

Offline beek

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Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2014, 11:16:12 AM »
thats the ip connecting to the router from the isp
and on the second one that worked is no connection to the router from the isp

guest22

Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2014, 11:19:49 AM »
thats the ip connecting to the router from the isp
and on the second one that worked is no connection to the router from the isp


I don't understand, all IP's must be different, and why have a server gateway if it's not onnected with the external interface to something?

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Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2014, 12:01:13 PM »
Beek,

To really work out what is going on we need only one server connected at a time. So can I ask you to try the following please:

1. Connect server 1 to your router via the external ethernet adaptor, and then connect it to your internal network using the internal network adapter. Reboot the workstations and see if you can ping the server, and if you can see the server on the windows network. Please post up details of server configuration, and of your Workstation configuration, including workgroup please.

2. Disconnect server 1 completely from both the internal network and external network. Connect server 2 to your router via the external adaptor, and then connect it to your internal network using the internal network adapter. Reboot the workstations and see if you can ping the server, and if you can see the server on the windows network. Please post up details of server configuration, and of your Workstation configuration, including workgroup please. I noticed that server 2 does not have dhcp enabled, so unless you have another dhcp server on your internal network you will need to reconfigure the server first.

Please report back with your findings. Thank you.
Jim

Offline beek

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Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2014, 07:41:29 PM »
i have tested the server one at the time.
server 1.(the old one)
i can ping it and not visable)

workgroup = beek
internal ip adres is 192.168.2.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
external ip adress = 192.168.1.201
netmask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.1.1

Workstation
workgroup = beek
internal ip adres is 192.168.2.24
netmask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.2.1

server 2.(the new one)
i can ping it and visable)

workgroup = beek
internal ip adres is 192.168.2.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
external ip adress = 192.168.1.201
netmask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.1.1

Workstation
workgroup = beek
internal ip adres is 192.168.2.24
netmask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.2.2

Offline Peasant

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Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2014, 12:52:36 PM »
OK, thank you for that information. On server 1, is DHCP enabled, and if so, what is the DHCP range? If it is as you stated in an earlier post, the IP address of your workstation is outside this range. That is not a problem in itself, but I would like to know where your workstation is getting the IP address of 192.168.2.24 from.

Similarily, on server 2, is DHCP enabled and if so, what is the DHCP range?

Finally, if you run ipconfig /all on your workstation, what DHCP server is listed, and what DNS server is listed please?

Thank you.
Jim

Offline beek

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Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2015, 12:42:38 PM »
dhcp is enabled  range 2.65 to 2.75

i dont use the dhcp on the workstation
workstation = 2.20
dhcp server = 2.1
dns server = 2.1

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Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2015, 02:16:43 PM »
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dhcp is enabled  range 2.65 to 2.75

i dont use the dhcp on the workstation
workstation = 2.20
dhcp server = 2.1

So you have a static IP for the workstation? What about when the second server is attached? What is the output from ipconfig /all?

The reason I ask all these questions are:

1. The obvious difference between the two servers is that one is acting as a DHCP server, the other is not.
2. You appear to be using a static IP on the workstations, and I don't know whether you change the workstation settings when you change servers for testing
3. The static IP you gave for your workstation this time (2.20) is different from the one in your last post (2.24). I assume this is because it is a different workstation, but it would make things easier if you used the same workstation for all testing.
Jim

Offline beek

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Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2015, 04:53:24 PM »

i will go build a new one

Offline beek

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Re: cannot see sme 9 in local network
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2015, 03:36:19 PM »
ok i have build or used the new one now.
but cannot understand why the old one is not working.
Can ping both servers
the only strange thing is that on the old server there are no netbios name or group to see with advanced ip scanner


SME 9 32 bits (old one)
Widows workgroup  beeksplace
Servername  Firewall2
Workgroup and Domain Controller No
Roaming profiles no

Networking Parameters
Server Mode   servergateway
Local IP address / subnet mask   192.168.2.2/255.255.255.0
External IP address / subnet mask   192.168.1.202/255.255.255.0
Gateway   192.168.1.1
Additional local networks   192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
DHCP server   disabled
Server names
DNS server   192.168.2.2
Web server   www.beeksplace
Proxy server   proxy.beeksplace:3128
FTP server   ftp.beeksplace
SMTP, POP, and IMAP mail servers   mail.beeksplace
Domain information
Primary domain   beeksplace
Virtual domains   
beeksplace
Primary web site   http://www.beeksplace
Server manager   https://firewall2/server-manager/
User password panel   https://firewall2/user-password/
Email Addresses   useraccount@beeksplace
firstname.lastname@beeksplace
firstname_lastname@beeksplace






config show SystemName
SystemName=firewall2

config show smb
smb=service
    DeadTime=10080
    KeepVersions=disabled
    OpLocks=enabled
    OsLevel=35
    RecycleBin=disabled
    RoamingProfiles=no
    ServerName=Firewall2
    ServerRole=WS
    ShadowCount=10
    ShadowDir=/home/e-smith/files/.shadow
    UnixCharSet=UTF8
    UseClientDriver=yes
    WINSServer=192.168.2.1
    Workgroup=sme-server
    status=enabled

Advanced IP scanner
Server the old one
Naam  Johan2 (is a name from a web domain)
Ipv4: 192.168.2.2
Netbios-name:  is blank
Netbios-group:  is blank
SME 9 64 bits (the new one)
Widows workgroup  beeksplace
Servername  Firewall
Workgroup and Domain Controller No
Roaming profiles no
Networking Parameters
Server Mode   servergateway
Local IP address / subnet mask   192.168.2.1/255.255.255.0
External IP address / subnet mask   192.168.1.201/255.255.255.0
Gateway   192.168.1.1
Additional local networks   192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
DHCP server   enabled
Beginning of DHCP address range   192.168.2.65
End of DHCP address range   192.168.2.75
Server names
DNS server   192.168.2.1
Web server   www.beeksplace
Proxy server   proxy.beeksplace:3128
FTP server   ftp.beeksplace
SMTP, POP, and IMAP mail servers   mail.beeksplace
Domain information
Primary domain   beeksplace
Virtual domains   
Primary web site   http://www.beeksplace
Server manager   https://firewall/server-manager/
User password panel   https://firewall/user-password/
Email Addresses   useraccount@beeksplace
firstname.lastname@beeksplace
firstname_lastname@beeksplace

config show SystemName
SystemName=firewall
config show smb
smb=service
    DeadTime=10080
    KeepVersions=disabled
    OpLocks=enabled
    OsLevel=35
    RecycleBin=disabled
    RoamingProfiles=no
    ServerName=firewall
    ServerRole=WS
    ShadowCount=10
    ShadowDir=/home/e-smith/files/.shadow
    UnixCharSet=UTF8
    UseClientDriver=yes
    Workgroup=beeksplace
    status=enabled

Advanced IP scanner
Naam  Firewall
Ipv4: 192.168.2.1
Netbios-name:  Firewall
Netbios-group:  Beeksplace




Workstation 1
Ipv4: 192.168.2.20
Ipv4 subnet: 255.255.255.0
Ipv4 default gateway: 192.168.2.1
Ipv4 DNS server: 192.168.2.1
Netbios over TCIP: yes

Workstation 2
Ipv4: 192.168.2.24
Ipv4 subnet: 255.255.255.0
Ipv4 default gateway: 192.168.2.1
Ipv4 DNS server: 192.168.2.1
Netbios over TCIP: yes