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[Cancelled] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9

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[Cancelled] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« on: September 09, 2015, 08:20:37 PM »
cancelled !
« Last Edit: September 15, 2015, 09:25:25 PM by Xavier.A »
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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2015, 08:51:23 PM »
Cancelled !
« Last Edit: September 15, 2015, 09:25:06 PM by Xavier.A »
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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2015, 10:37:46 PM »
excellent but:
- any file in /etc/ (but not only in /etc/ tree) should be templated.. I'm referring to all /etc/tomcat6 and /etc/profile.d files you create/edit in the first post
- having compilation tools and compile packages in SME server is not a good idea, for security and maintenance reasons..
- you said, above:
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no public rpm
can you explain a bit more?
- this line
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Install the msttcorefonts (if you know another way, send me a mail and I will change this part):
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rpm -i https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/mscorefonts2/rpms/msttcore-fonts-installer-2.6-1.noarch.rpm
should be
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yum --enablerepo=$whatever install msttcore-fonts-installer
where $whatever is a repo where that rpm is available (I did not search, but I'm confident it will be available in some repo out there)
- when you refer to conf/
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Edit conf/main.property (without Ldap, if you need it, just ask)
is not clear to me where you are in the directory tree

finally.. thank you for your effort.. once this howto is improved and corrected (see my observations and suggestions), you'd "move" it to the wiki (please ask for a wiki access if you don't have any)
TIA

Offline Xavier.A

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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2015, 12:05:09 AM »
Stefano,
thank you for your observation, this howto needs to be tested a lot because Debian is the recommended distribution and it is what I use every days.

About Tomcat Native, it's not a need for testing so the users should not compile it if they don't know how to use it ;-)

About templates...why not if you can try to make it.

About RPM, in the past I made RPM for my professional use so I can communicate the spec file or I can help to package a java software. For the moment there are Deb packages and tar files for the other distributions.

I don't know any RH family repos for M$ fonts. If someone want to build it I will communicate about it in the scenari forum.

To make the war file you must be in /usr/local/src/scenari/SCENARIserverLite4.1 and the conf folder is inside this folder. The path are :
  • /usr/local/src/scenari/SCENARIserverLite4.1/conf/main.property
  • /usr/local/src/scenari/SCENARIserverLite4.1/conf/advanced/server.xml

finally.. thank you for your effort.. once this howto is improved and corrected (see my observations and suggestions), you'd "move" it to the wiki (please ask for a wiki access if you don't have any)
This howto needs more pictures. Maybe this time I will write it in your wiki if it can help the SME users.

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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2015, 07:12:44 AM »
This is a forum. How-to's belong on the wiki.

Offline Xavier.A

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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2015, 08:22:37 AM »
This is a forum. How-to's belong on the wiki.
thank you for your interesting observation RequestedDeletion ! It is in this wiki ! ask nicely and I will write it in your wiki !!!

It could be more useful testing this howto and to talk with the dev team or me about what is not clear for you or for the SME users. The scenari softwares need to be more "localized".

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« Last Edit: September 10, 2015, 09:02:31 AM by Xavier.A »
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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2015, 10:27:03 AM »
guys, please, @all, be polite..
Xavier has been already asked to improve his howto and then to move it to wiki.

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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2015, 10:44:19 AM »
Stefano,
thank you for your observation, this howto needs to be tested a lot because Debian is the recommended distribution and it is what I use every days.

if so, I hope someone will try and test it..

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About Tomcat Native, it's not a need for testing so the users should not compile it if they don't know how to use it ;-)

please edit your howto accordingly and put in evidence that is not required/mandatory, thank you

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About templates...why not if you can try to make it.

mmmhh.. do you want me to do your homework? :-)

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About RPM, in the past I made RPM for my professional use so I can communicate the spec file or I can help to package a java software. For the moment there are Deb packages and tar files for the other distributions.

please put here a link to the .spec file so maybe someone will create a .src and .rpm file, thank you

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I don't know any RH family repos for M$ fonts. If someone want to build it I will communicate about it in the scenari forum.

just digged a bit and you're right, this rpm is not available in any repo.. but I found this link
https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/

as long as the font name is not hardcoded (and if so, please read herem comment #2: http://serverfault.com/questions/417346/install-msttcorefonts-on-centos-6-3), this should be the way..

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To make the war file you must be in /usr/local/src/scenari/SCENARIserverLite4.1 and the conf folder is inside this folder.

ok.. please edit your post accordingly, and clarify it, thank you

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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2015, 11:41:49 AM »
There is a typo in :
Add LibreOffice libraries to Tomcat
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cp /etc/tomcat6/catalina.properties /etc/tomcat6/catalina.properties.bak
sed -i "s/shared.loader=/shared.loader=\/usr\/lib64\/libreoffice\/ure\/share\/java\/jurt.jar,\\\ \\n \
\/usr\/lib64\/libreoffice\/ure\/share\/java\/ridl.jar,\\\ \\n \
\/usr\/lib64\/libreoffice\/program\/classes\/unoil.jar/g" /etc/tomcat6/catalina.properties

After test, you must edit /etc/tomcat6/catalina.properties with :
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sed -i "s/shared.loader=/shared.loader=\/usr\/lib64\/libreoffice\/ure\/share\/java\/jurt.jar,\\\\\n \
\/usr\/lib64\/libreoffice\/ure\/share\/java\/ridl.jar,\\\\\n \
\/usr\/lib64\/libreoffice\/program\/classes\/unoil.jar/g" /etc/tomcat6/catalina.properties
this howto needs more tests....

My bad ! I should talk about the spanish and the arabian versions of Opale.
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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 11:47:22 AM »
ok..
since editing here will make everything difficult to follo, please move it to the wiki, thank you

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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2015, 12:01:30 PM »
just digged a bit and you're right, this rpm is not available in any repo.. but I found this link
https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/

as long as the font name is not hardcoded (and if so, please read herem comment #2: http://serverfault.com/questions/417346/install-msttcorefonts-on-centos-6-3), this should be the way..

Packaging a font is not a hard task, the problem is the licenses and the M$ Fonts are normally not redistributable.
The spec files are here and the process consists to download the font directly from the M$ website.

ok..
since editing here will make everything difficult to follo, please move it to the wiki, thank you

as soon as Daniel give me an access ;-)
« Last Edit: September 10, 2015, 12:03:33 PM by Xavier.A »
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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2015, 12:04:40 PM »
Packaging a font is not a hard task, the problem is the licenses and the M$ Fonts are normally not redistributable.
The spec files are here and the process consists to download the font directly from the M$ website.

I know.. tha's why RH released liberation fonts.. try and see if they can be used instead of the M$ ones..

TIA

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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2015, 08:51:30 PM »
since editing here will make everything difficult to follo, please move it to the wiki, thank you
Done !

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« Last Edit: September 13, 2015, 11:12:44 PM by Xavier.A »
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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2015, 06:31:18 PM »
To both RequestedDeletion & Xavier.A

Both RequestedDeletion & Xavier.A need a big dose of politeness, understanding & patience.
Would a moderator please censor & reprimand them both.
I am really annoyed to see these continuing "snide like & childish" comments between these two adult people (engineers too, what a shame, they should know better).
Enough guys please !
Leave your petty bickering for somewhere else, no one here at contribs wants to hear your differences of opinions being aired publicly on these forums.
If Chris Burnat were still alive, he would have locked you both out of using the forum for a month, maybe then you would both wake up & stop these attacks on each other.
Please stop & never do it again.
Be polite & courteous at all times.
Thank you
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
The Search & other links to useful information are at top of Forum.

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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2015, 09:08:53 PM »
Be polite & courteous at all times.
Thank you

merci Janet, c'est exactement ce que j'avais en tête.

This is what I had in mind, thank you Janet
See http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation
irc : Freenode #sme_server #sme-fr

!!! Please write your knowledge to the Wiki !!!

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Re: [HOWTO] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2015, 09:12:44 PM »
Janet and all,
I'm completely agree with you but you don't really know what he wrote about this software suite.

I'm trying to make discover to the SME community members, this "fantastic" software suite.
This guy wrote in the wiki about Scenari :
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[url=http://wiki.koozali.org/index.php?title=Scenari-Server_Lite&oldid=28622]This how-to does not follow SME Server priciples. It is a generic RH server based how-to. It should actually not be here. It also seriously compromises default SME Server security. [/url]

The wiki page was just a "work in progress page " and he said to every one : this software is dangerous for your SME ! Whaou this guy is fantastic, he did't even intall it once and he said Scenari Server is a bad soft?

All the source code is public! The howto is an adaptation of what we did for other distributions! For me it is really a free work on my spare time. I didn't need to do that to say to the world : hey guy, look at me I did something marvelous!

This kind of criticism is just an insult to all who worked on this software ! We are researchers, teachers, developers, students and his behaviour is simply unacceptable !

Now if this community accept this sort of behaviour because the guy wrote 1000 or 2000 posts in this forum then it's a shame !

All my apologize but I will not able to share with you anything more !!!

Bye
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Re: [Cancelled] Scenari Server Lite installation for SME9
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2015, 10:18:21 PM »
Janet and all,
I'm completely agree with you but you don't really know what he wrote about this software suite.

Xavier, this is not the first time you agree with us but behave in a different manner


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This guy wrote in the wiki about Scenari :
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[url=http://wiki.koozali.org/index.php?title=Scenari-Server_Lite&oldid=28622]This how-to does not follow SME Server priciples. It is a generic RH server based how-to. It should actually not be here. It also seriously compromises default SME Server security. [/url]

The wiki page was just a "work in progress page " and he said to every one : this software is dangerous for your SME ! Whaou this guy is fantastic, he did't even intall it once and he said Scenari Server is a bad soft?

what HF wrote in that wiki page is the same warning you can find in other pages..
regarding the part "This how-to does not follow SME Server priciples. It is a generic RH server based how-to" this is simply true, as there's no trace of SME's paradigm (db/templates/events) in your how to

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All the source code is public! The howto is an adaptation of what we did for other distributions! For me it is really a free work on my spare time. I didn't need to do that to say to the world : hey guy, look at me I did something marvelous!

This kind of criticism is just an insult to all who worked on this software ! We are researchers, teachers, developers, students and his behaviour is simply unacceptable !

Now if this community accept this sort of behaviour because the guy wrote 1000 or 2000 posts in this forum then it's a shame !

first of all calm down and breathe
in second instance, the criticistm you see is not against you and the product.. you'd really start to think that SME is used also by unexperienced users and we (all of us) must be clear about possible deviations from "our" standard
third, if you have some problems with whoever here, you have to use standard comunication tools: report the post, send an email.. please keep forums as clean as possible.. and, I'm sure, this is NOT the first time you've been told so.

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All my apologize but I will not able to share with you anything more !!!

Bye

let me say that this is (maybe) the nineth time you tell us so..
don't get me wrong, but from a man (not a child) I don't expect such an attitude.
if you want to stay, you are welcome, but here you must follow our rules, even with language, attitude, howtos, all.
no more post like this will be accepted from you or anybody.
thank you

now, @all, this topic will be locked (again)