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E-Smith Server Upgrade - Worth it?

Keith

E-Smith Server Upgrade - Worth it?
« on: November 02, 2003, 10:43:45 PM »
Hi,

I currently have a Pentium 200 MMX computer w/ 148mb SIMM ram running E-Smith 6.0 Beta 3.

I also have an extra Gateway Pentium II 300 MHz and 192 mb dimm ram sitting next to me.

When I'm on my server's webmail or server manager, the speed is unbearably slow.

Would upgrading my server to the PII help at all? I'm sure I could use it for some other use, so I don't want to upgrade without the performance increasing noticablely!

Thanks!
Keith

Michael Smith

Re: E-Smith Server Upgrade - Worth it?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2003, 12:05:50 AM »
Yes, that upgrade would be significant.  The Pentium to PII architecture change, as well as DIMM RAM, will make quite a difference.  Go for it.

Andrew Hodgson

Re: E-Smith Server Upgrade - Worth it?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2003, 01:20:22 AM »
Hi all,

I have a P166 with 64mb Sim ram running 5.6, and a friend has a PIII with 128mb of DDR ram running the same version.  Although bootup is slightly quicker, the server-manager is still very slow to respond on both systems.

Andrew.

Jáder Marasca

Re: E-Smith Server Upgrade - Worth it?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2003, 03:01:42 AM »
I think there are two reasons to a slow server-manager answer:
memory and disk

CPU isn't a importa matter because most of time isn't used. You'll use CPU to do backup (compressing)... not to read something from disk.

Why DISK is important?
Because if you have a old disk (< 20Gb) you must have a <1Mb cache on HDD.
If you're using a very old computer (< PIII) you must have just UDMA2 (< 66Mbps) support. And you can even have no UDMA enabled!

Why memory is important?
If you have less than 128Mb you have no space to cache and most of you try to access is read from disk (and I bet your disk is slow!)... so take time to read.

Upgrade your memory to at least 256Mb and you'll note some benefits... but if I can give you my 2 cents advice: get a faster disk and interface.
Just to let you know, when running this command on your SME what you get?
              hdparm -t /dev/hda

This is my server:

[root@tigre root]# hdparm -t /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  1.78 seconds = 35.96 MB/sec
[root@tigre root]#
I'm using as server an EPIA 5000 with 128 MB RAM and a 80Gb HDD with 2MB of internal cache.
See this:

[root@tigre root]# hdparm -i /dev/hda

/dev/hda:

 Model=WDC WD800BB-00CAA0, FwRev=16.06V16, SerialNo=WD-WMA8E7690855
 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs FmtGapReq }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=40
 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=156301488
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
 PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
 AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
 Drive Supports : Reserved : ATA-1 ATA-2 ATA-3 ATA-4 ATA-5

BufSize=2048Kb!

Post your numbers... I can give you another number for very different CPU/HDD but need your number to understand what can be improved!

Michael Soulier

Re: E-Smith Server Upgrade - Worth it?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2003, 07:02:45 AM »
Andrew Hodgson wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a P166 with 64mb Sim ram running 5.6, and a friend has
> a PIII with 128mb of DDR ram running the same version.
> Although bootup is slightly quicker, the server-manager is
> still very slow to respond on both systems.

The processor may not be your bottleneck. Compare bus and harddrives speeds.

Also, upgrade to 6.0b3+updates. You'll find the caching greatly improves server manager performance.

Mike