Topic: Frontpage Extensions work on E-Smith

[FrontPage]

I have successfully installed RTR (www.rtr.com) version of frontpage extensions 2000 on E-Smith server.

Warning: This should only be attempted on a non-production system !

First: go into /etc/e-smith/templates/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf/
and 'pico 05Port' change to 8080 or a port other than 80. Control-O to save and
Control-X to exit pico.

Next: type /sbin/e-smith/expand-template /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf to expand the new /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file reflecting the port change to the e-smith web server (the one with www.e-smith.domain.com/e-smith-manager, which still works completely) you will access it at http://www:8080/e-smith-manager, now type /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart to restart the weberver on port 8080.

so far you haven't broken anything.


ok no go get another copy of apache (binary so you don't need to compile anything) at this url (if you get it somewhere else it may not work !)

http://www.apache.org/dist/binaries/linux/apache_1.3.12-i686-whatever-linux2.tar.gz

type gunzip apache_1.3.12-i686-whatever-linux2.tar.gz
then type tar xvf apache_1.3.12-i686-whatever-linux2.tar
then (change directory to) cd apache_1.3.12
type ./install-bindist.sh and it will put the new apache server in /usr/local/apache

type /usr/local/bin/apachectl start and go to http://localhost and see if it's running

now get front page extension from www.rtr.com and install per instructions.

Walah, works, i've got 4 virtual domains running each with subwebs, a few databases, etc. If you have any problems or questions don't email me. post your questions here !

[Orville Carter]

Ok Mr. Frontpage,

Sounds Good!
I will give this a second shot on my backup e-smith web server. If this works I owe you a big one.
Wish me luck!

OC

[Gerald]

Well, I have the new apache installed on 8080. I unzipped the rtr tar. However, when I ran "fp_install.sh" nothing. If it worked for you could you tell me what you did. TIA
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[Gerald]

When you expanded the tar fp4.0.tar was directory that it was expanded in important?
Thanks,

[Orville Carter]

Sorry Gerald,

I have not tried the frontpage extensions yet.

OC

[FrontPage]

simply place the frontpage.tar.gz and fp_install.sh in /tmp (this is where i put them) and cd to /tmp, then run ./fp_install.sh and follow the prompts

[Gerald]

For some reason this doesn't seem to be my day. I have put FP40.linux.tar.Z and FP_install.sh in the recommend directory ie. /usr/local. When I attempted to download fp_install.sh it opened so I did a copy and paste into notepad and then save it with a .sh suffix. That should work since the script is in ASCII. However, when I attempt to run the script from the command line I receive an "access denied" error code. Any ideas?

[Gerald]

I installed the Front Page extensions, without error messages. However, when I attemp to perform a function within a web page that uses the extensions I received and error message indicating that the server doesnot support them. Is there a way to check the way the extensions are being applied. ie. a conf file that lists the extensions and the webs that are being served by them? I access the test web pages on www:8080/webtest TIA

[Orville Carter]

Sorry good buddy,

I gave up on that idea weeks ago. Its a BAD idea, in my opinion, and should be avoided on e-Smith (or Linux) servers (so, Shoot me!). In fact, it is not necessary.
We decided to stay away from the Microsoft "trap" in our web hosting.
We also discovered some great web site design products along the way.

By the way, who is the mysterious Frontpage person??

HEY FRONTPAGE DO YOU HAVE AN IDENTITY? COME ON OUTTA DEAH!

Orville
NYC

[Gerald]

Thanks for the input. Maybe the problems doesn't lie entirely with me. I have no problem developing web pages with another tool. I just haven't found on that does the quick and dirty stuff as well as Front Page. Do you have any suggestions for a tool that will do frames and doesn't cost a fortune? TIA

[Gordon Rowell]

Gerald wrote:

> Thanks for the input. Maybe the problems doesn't lie entirely
> with me. I have no problem developing web pages with another
> tool. I just haven't found on that does the quick and dirty
> stuff as well as Front Page. Do you have any suggestions for a
> tool that will do frames and doesn't cost a fortune? TIA

I have used DreamWeaver on a number of occasions very happily. It
has fabulous site/link management, support for  frames (if you want
to use them), site templates, server-side include support, etc. It also
warns you of constructs which will not work, or work differently
under various browsers. It also understands relative URLs (FrontPage
mangles these in quite amazing ways) and has site publish/synchronise.

DreamWeaver has some really nice features, such as its ability to
do everything with tables or layers. In fact, it works in layers and
will then render in tables if you need to do so (which you do unless
you have a constrained browser community).

It is not cheap, but I have not found anything as capable.

Gordon

[J-L Boers]

I am attempting to install FP2000 server extensions on an E-smith 4.1.2 box.
From my understanding, i need to change the port from 80 to 8080 so i can still access the e-smith-manager.I found the info  on the e-smith list posted by a user named Frontpage. The title is "Frontpage Extensions work on E-smith "dated 09-08-00. (His instructions look like they applied to 4.0) I cannot get e-smith to listen on port 8080. How do I do this now?



I tried editing the following:

edited /etc/e-smith/templates/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf/05Port template and changed the port from 80 to 8080

saved the file

#  /sbin/e-smith/expand-template httpd.conf

#  /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart

No errors noted. all seemed well. I then accessed the e-smith-manager from another box but could not connect on port 8080. It connected normally like it did before I changed the template file. I doublechecked the httpd.conf file and it does indeed list port 8080 now.

I then made  new directories and a 05Port template in the template-custom directory by cp'ing the original 05Port template and changing the original 05Port template back to port 80. (custom templates override the standard ones right?). I achieved the same results.

According to his notes, you first get e-smith to listen on port 8080 (https://e-smith-box-IP:8080/e-smith-manager )for the web manager. You then install a new apache binary in usr/local/apache and then install ready-to-run 's FP2000 extensions to that copy of apache.

So,,, there 's the history so far. Can someone point me in the right direction on how to get a brand spanking new e-smith installation to listen on port 8080?

Thanks much!


TTYL
J-L
jfboers@fedex.com
jl@boers.cc