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Title: X11 Server for e-smith
Post by: John Sadie on February 02, 2001, 01:17:06 PM
Is it possible to install a X11 server for e-smith?


That way I could use my X11 for Windows to run the X11 version of the ARKEIA client software, since the X11 version has far more function than the WINDOWS client software. Who knows why, but is does.

Thanks.
Title: Re: X11 Server for e-smith
Post by: Lloyd Keen on February 02, 2001, 03:25:36 PM
Are you just wanting to backup the e-smith server? If so the backup/restore facility that comes with the e-smith server appears to be quite adequate. Otherwise you could try arkc which is a command line utility that appears to be quite powerful. You can download it from Arkeia.
Title: Re: X11 Server for e-smith
Post by: John Sadie on February 02, 2001, 11:02:33 PM
I have a number of clients using Linux as a server. They all use WINDOWS PC's as clients - they know nothing about LINUX, and wants to know nothing about LINUX (or NT, or whatever is on the server, for that matter). All they want to do is have an easy way to backup/restore their data from within their familiar WINDOWS environment. The e-smith backup/restore is OK, but too limited.

The ARKEIA gui client gives them exactly what they want and need.

Unfortunately there are limitations with the WINDOWS ARKEIA GUI client and the JAVA platform - the bottom row of buttons do not display, the DATE function has problems with the scheduling of PERIODIC BACKUPS.

These limitations do not exist with the X11 ARKEIA client.

I have successfully used the XWIN32 X11 emulator for WINDOWS, to emulate a X11 GUI that is running on a COREL LINUX PC. That works wonderfully well, except that you now need two client PC's - the WINDOWS PC and the COREL LINUX PC running the X11 server, controlling the ARKEIA server, running on an e-smith server.

I would like to run the X11 server on the e-smith box, and to connect to that directly using the LINUX ARKEIA client, running on top of a X11 emulator, on the WINDOWS PC's.

I will try to install XFree86 and see how that goes.
Title: Re: X11 Server for e-smith
Post by: Lloyd Keen on February 03, 2001, 03:21:56 PM
Here's a very simplistic procedure that I use in your situation:
Map the users server space locally as a network drive (F:\)
create a batch file called c:\backup.bat containing the following
"xcopy32 F:\*.* any_removable_drive\*.* /D /E"
I use a burner for my removable drive as both the drives and the media are so cheap now.
The /d and /e switches tell it to create the directories and only backup files that have been modified.
Now schedule it to be run every night at 8.00pm or something using Task Scheduler.
98se and ME both support packet writing out of the box so you will be able to use a CDRW. I have 7 CDRW's that are swapped every morning. Six are kept in the safe or taken home. It's obviously not a solution to your problem as you already have the ARKEIA server but it's what I use. It doesn't cost me a zac and I don't have to corrupt my e-smith setup.
Title: Re: X11 Server for e-smith
Post by: John Sadie on February 11, 2001, 01:36:22 PM
ARKEIA replied, and suggested that I use VNC as a X graphics server.

Havent tried it on Linux yet, but the Windows 9x/NT version works like a treat - better and easier than Netwmeeting
Title: Re: X11 Server for e-smith
Post by: Gerald on March 11, 2001, 01:44:14 AM
I have used VNC on Windows 9X, NT and W2Kp; but haven't used it from behind an e-smith server to another e-smith server to a W2K workstation. I know it is possible but I don't have the Linux skills to write a script to it. I can use putty  to establish a ssh concection to the the remote e-smith and then ping the non-routeable ws station at the remote site. Consequently, I know that I should be able to contact a VNC host on the W2K workstation. It is my understanding that the W2K system with VNC host runnng, will monitor port 5900. So, I know the elements, but don't know how to put it all together to make it work. If you have the experience and the ideas I would be a willing student.