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Title: Qmail, POP3 and my frustrations
Post by: Cincron on April 23, 2002, 10:39:00 PM
I cannot seem to get my Outlook2000 to get my mail from my webserver/mailserver. The only way that I can retreive it is through webmail.

I have checked with my ISP (he does my DNS and my MX) He said that eveything is good on his end.

I want my Outlook 2000 to get my mail from my mail.theburds.org. Is there anyway I can manually check the configurations of qmail so I can have a pop3 server. I would rather not use IMAP, but if I have to I will. (IMAP dont work either).

Outlook tells me that it can't find the pop3 server, and in Microjunk's Knowledge Base, it said to make sure the exchange server is running and configured properly.

I want pop3 to work so I can give e-mail address to my family and friends who do not live in my house.  I would rather them use their current e-mail programs instead of simply using the webmail.

I do not want to get rid of the webmail, I like it for when I am not at home, I can check my mail via the web.

Can anyone please help me with this pop3? Can you tell me where the configurations are for pop3 or at least where I can check them..

Thanks for all your help before, and hope to get more great help in this phorum.
Title: Re: Qmail, POP3 and my frustrations
Post by: Terry Brummell on April 23, 2002, 10:55:12 PM
You're trying to do this from the external side of the SME?  1st, POP3 and IMAP collection can be done, but must be allowed in the server manager under "Other e-mail settings", set it to public.  2nd, using the SME to send mail from the external side is not allowed, that type of server is used as an open-relay and will quickly be spammed to death.  There is an add-on floating around that allows authentication before SMTP, do a search and the thread should show up.  I haven't tried the add-on but from what others have said it works quite well.

HTH

Terry
Title: Re: Qmail, POP3 and my frustrations
Post by: Dan Brown on April 23, 2002, 11:28:49 PM
Your server appears to be configured just fine--I can connect to it on the POP port.  Is your IP address 216.4.232.43?  If not, you have a DNS configuration error.  If it is, you should be fine.  Why outlook would be having a problem I can't say.
Title: Re: Qmail, POP3 and my frustrations
Post by: Cincron on April 23, 2002, 11:41:13 PM
My SME is set up as a stand-alone server. We are connected by either 3-com or Linksys NIC's to a 16-port Linksys Switch. Then my Netopia R910 Router takes up the NAT, and portforwarding. My Modem is a Westell ADSL.

My Provider does my DNS and my MX Record for me. Admiral.cc provides me 756k / 756k ADSL and 3 static IP's(1 for mail / web server and the others for game servers.)

On my Netopia Router I have port (FTP 21, Http 80, SMTP 25, POP3 110:) But all my clients/server are behind the router, so this shouldnt really matter... at least I dont think.

Yes 216.4.232.43 is my external web / mail server IP.


My Outlook 2000 gives me an error but I dont quite under stand it...

MicroSoft's Knowledge Base:
SYMTOMS:
When you use a computer that has Winsock Proxy Client installed and you connect to the Internet through a local area network (LAN), you encounter one of the following error messages when you try to use a dial-up connection to your Internet Mail server in Outlook 2000:

A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. (Account: ' Account name ', SMTP Server:' Server name ', Error Number: 0x800CCC19)
A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. (Account:' Account name ', POP3 Server:' Server name ', Error Number: 0x800CCC19)

CAUSE:
This behavior occurs if Winsock Proxy Client is turned on, which prevents you from establishing any connectivity through a dial-up connection

WORKAROUND:
To work around this behavior, turn off Winsock Proxy Client when you use a dial-up Internet connection and turn it on when you use a LAN connection.

To turn off Proxy Client:

In Control Panel, double-click WSP Client .

Click to clear the Enable Winsock Proxy check box, click OK , and then connect to the Internet.

To turn on Proxy Client:
In Control Panel, double-click WSP Client .

Click to select the Enable Winsock Proxy check box, click OK , and then connect to the LAN





I dont understand that because I have no modems in my clients or my servers. It is all on NIC's and my modem is a Westell.

Any Ideas?
Title: Re: Qmail, POP3 and my frustrations
Post by: Cincron on April 24, 2002, 05:44:45 PM
Ok here is the deal..... This is strange but very True....

Mr. Dan Brown.... You are exacly right that my IP for my mail server is 216.4.232.43.... But I never see that IP. My ISP gives me 192.168.xxx.xx, then I take that IP, and change it again through my router to a differant 192.168.xxx.xx...

Example:
216.4.232.43(external Internet)---->192.168.50.18(from my ISP to me)------->192.168.1.25(My web/mail server)

If I ping mail.theburds.org I do not get 216.4.232.43 as you would. I get an internal 192.168.xxx.xx number.

If I take my POP3 and SMTP settings from mail.theburds.org.... and change them to the IP of my web/mail server (192.168.1.25) me getting mail in outlook 2000 works very nicely.

Yes I know that my setup is very strange, but Admiral.cc is the only one in my Area that will allow you to run, web/mail/game or any other type of server you want. I only have 3 ISP's to choose from, AT&T Broadband (server's are a no-no and they blow), My Telephone Company (Centrytel blows) and Admiral.cc (who I have). They have some good people working there and give me some great service if you compare to the other options I have.


Thank you to all who have suffered through my problems... I am glad there is good people out there to help Linux Newbies Like myself, but I am learning...

I can not say thanks enough...
Title: Re: Qmail, POP3 and my frustrations
Post by: Bill Talcott on April 24, 2002, 06:17:21 PM
Have you tried using 216.4.232.43 instead of mail.theburds.org as the server name? 192.168.1.25 is a private IP, which is only accessible to your network (admiral.cc users, or however they have it set up). But if mail.theburds.org resolves to 192.168.1.25, which really is the mail server, it should work anyway, like Dan said...

If using 216.4.232.43 does work, you can add a line to your hosts file so that it always uses that IP instead of whatever it would resolve to. Something like this:

216.4.232.43       mail.theburds.org

That will only affect the one client you make the change on, but it might be all you need to do...
Title: Re: Qmail, POP3 and my frustrations
Post by: Cincron on April 24, 2002, 08:16:56 PM
If I change the POP and SMTP server on Outlook 2000 to mail.theburds.org it doesn't work.

If I change the POP and SMTP server on Outlook 2000 to 216.4.232.43 (external IP that everyone sees except me) it doesn't work.

If I change the POP and SMTP server on Outlook 2000 to 192.168.40.18 (the IP my ISP gives me and 216.4.232.43 resovles to) it doesn't work.

If I change the POP and SMTP server on Outlook 2000 to 192.168.1.25 (The one that my Netopia forwards port 21,25,80,110 from IP 192.168.40.18) it does work.

I am giving too many IP's here.... someone will be able to follow that trail and HACK me for sure now... :-)


As I said, I have a strange setup... but it works... with a bit of agravations.Bill