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Legacy Forums => Experienced User Forum => Topic started by: Jens K on November 30, 2003, 07:55:10 PM
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I have been poking around a bit to look for a CMS system. I am running an e-smith 60b3 for our local residential club. I would like to have each resident to update their own webpages in an easy manner. Many of the residents are not used to other IT tools than the occasional wordprocessor and the webmail of e-smith.
I for myself would like to have many features such as forums. mediaservers, listservers, databases etc.
This is why I look for a CMS that are rich on features with many extentions and yet simple to use to produce simple webpages with some text and photos.
I have been looking on the different versions of nuke but can't figure out which to choose. I would appreciate input on experiences on using different CMS systems.
/Jensk
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check out plone at
http://www.plone.org/
there is a contribs created for it.
I haven't set up or tested yet but am doing so at this very moment.
It is looking pretty good to me
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Have now installed plone on my server and it is working wonderfully.
Not much in the way of gotcha's. Biggest one was finding the admin password after install.
Reading the .pdf documentation that accompanies it is a good idea.
My advice - grab the .rpm's and follow the howto. (Y)
Am placing the server in an old folks home and is providing the residents with their own internet access, email as well as a way to create their own webspace.
P.S. phase two involves installing a Linux Terminal server and with old donated equipment from local business supplying residents who don't have computers with their own. The building is a new building and fully wired. This stage will involved a few high school co-op students to setup the workstations and train the residents and give them help.
If anybody is interested, let me know and I will keep you posted!!!!!
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Hi Jens,
I'v installed plone v1.04 at my testserver. For my production server I want to wait voor version 2.x. Is is possible to install plone in an ibay f.i. an ibay named "plone" (http://www.domain.nl/plone) in stead of http://www.domain.nl:8080 ???
Thanks,
Rien
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Hi Rien.
I installed Plone and it worked ok on sme 5.6. After my upgrade to 6.0 I could not get it to work again. I tried the upgrade to a newer PHP version with no positive result. Since I am no Linux shark I had no other option than to deinstall Plone and I tried PHPWebsite instead.
I tried PHPWebsite because I expected it would work ok since it was the system that was used by www.contribs.org. Now I se that contribs has moved on to xoops so I don't know what to do next.
I was really looking for at CMS to user for our local community SME server. It should support distributed user rights so that each community member could have his own set of webpages that he/she could update very easy -most are computer illiterates.
It should also have all the normal user facilities like forums, galleries, webpages, menusystem, linkpages and newspages to closed user groups.
I am still looking for the right CMS to use so if you get/have some experiences you will share I would be very pleased.
Regards Jens
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Hi Jens,
I'm a newby on linux. I asked that question because I want to have an CMS which can be reached from the internet (an Ibay for safety reasons).
I installed plone 1.02 on a clean sme 6.0 final. I used the following rpm's:
- db4-4.0.14-14.i386.rpm
- Plone-1.0-2.2_1.i386.rpm
- python-2.2.1-17.i386.rpm
I used the following steps:
1) Get these three files:
# wget http://bender-high.com/sme/plone/db4-4.0.14-14.i386.rpm
# wget http://bender-high.com/sme/plone/python-2.2.1-17.i386.rpm
# wget http://bender-high.com/sme/plone/Plone-1.0-2.2_1.i386.rpm
2) install RPMs:
# rpm -Uvh db4-4.0.14-14.i386.rpm python-2.2.1-17.i386.rpm
# rpm -Uvh Plone-1.0-2.2_1.i386.rpm
To start Plone:
# /etc/init.d/plone start
(Will restart on next reboot as well.)
To access plone:
http://SERVER_ADDRESS:8080
To admin Zope:
http://SERVER_ADDRESS:8080/manage
login as 'admin'. password is 'plone'.
Because contribs.org uses Xoops, I installed that too (xoops-2.0.6RC.zip). I installed it in an ibay (just copy it to the htm directory). Before that I created the "Xoops-database" using the following commands:
[root@mlkserver root]# mysql
mysql> CREATE DATABASE xoops;
mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON xoops.* TO xoops@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'adminpassword';
mysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
mysql> quit
All standard modules works accept the "forum" and "download" module (see http://www.xoops.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16039&forum=19)
A module for Uploading documents (document managent) is not standard in Xoops (strange thing for an CMF, in plone it is integrated).
Regards Rien
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Hi,
If you are looking for a CMS to suit your particular purpose then you should visit this site.
http://www.opensourcecms.com
It lists dozens of open source CMS offerings and you can demo them all online.
Regards
Rob Thomson
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Hi Rob,
Thanks, it is difficult to choose. Do you have experience with one them?
Regards Rien
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Rien
Not realy! I'm trying a few myself right now but I think I will settle for Mambo.
It seems to suit my needs best.
Regards
Rob Thomson
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Hi Rob.
Could you tell me a little about why you think mambo suits your neds best? Maybee I could use it in my search for a good CMS.
I have tried opensourcecms.org. I pooked around a little but didn't have time enough to test all of the systems. Maybe i will get the time when i reach a week with to thursdays or so.
Regards Jens
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Jens,
My needs and yours are probably very different.
You just have to set out your priorities and try a few which seem to fit.
Have a look at some, download 5 or 6, put them into ibays and try them for size.
Regards
Rob Thomson
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Jens,
My needs and yours are probably very different.
You just have to set out your priorities and try a few which seem to fit.
Have a look at some, download 5 or 6, put them into ibays and try them for size.
Regards
Rob Thomson
if there is a need for user/grups with different rights so maybe Type3 coudl be the way. h
http://www.typo3.org
Have only tried on a clean Debian machine, but it works in an subdirectory so it also should work in an ibay.
hth
Anton
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I hesitated a bit before trying to install Typo3 - I read a couple of postings stating that it was difficult. Then came the winter holliday in Denmark and it was a gray sky - and I thought that now was the time.
So I have installed Typo3 and now it is up and running. It looks like a great CMS package. There is different testsites to start up with and the documentation is extensive. There is even videos on how to do different things.
From www.typo3.org I have downloaded the quickinstall-3.5.0 and the typo3_src-3.5.0 tars and untarred them in an ibay.
At first I couldn't get it to work but then I realized that T3 is using symbolic links to chain the testsites and the sourcepackage together. I modified the e-smith custom template to include +FollowSymlink and now it is working.
Next step is to get T3 to see that I have installed ImageMagick. To do this I need to know where Imagemagick is installed under E-smith. I can see that there is some ImageMagick in /usr/lib but when I enter this path in the T3 configuration screen it states that there is no ImageMagick on the server.
Can somebody tell me where Imagemagic is installed?
JensK
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Just a quick note ... Plone is built on Zope and Python, not PHP. Upgrading PHP won't affect Plone.
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Hi Jens,
I used the following steps:
To start Plone:
# /etc/init.d/plone start
(Will restart on next reboot as well.)
Regards Rien
Dearest all
I've installed Plone as per Rien's kind instructions. I am using a plain vanilla 6.0f. My problem is, I can't seem to have Plone to auto-start whenever the server reboots/restarts.
Is there a config.sys/autoexec.bat equivalent file that I have to key-in those commands as per quoted above? At least, please point me to the correct direction.
Sincere regards
Deunan
Very Linux newbie
PS - I know servers are not supposed to be rebooted often, but I have to allow power failures and such. ;-)
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My favourite is Drupal (http://www.drupal.org). It has many integrated features, including the ability for every registered member to have their own blog.
I use it to run my site (see signature) and have also written a how-to for installing Drupal on e-smith (http://www.bmannconsulting.com/node/view/720).
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Is there anyone there know where I can find a how-to to installing Typo3 3.6.2 on a SME 6.0.1.
I have tried for some time now and can’t get it to work. When I try to access the Typo3 site on my server I get the error Access Denied. I think that it has something to do with the FollowSymLinks on the apache configuration file. :-(
I hope that someone can help.
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I hesitated a bit before trying to install Typo3 - I read a couple of postings stating that it was difficult....
At first I couldn't get it to work but then I realized that T3 is using symbolic links to chain the testsites and the sourcepackage together. I modified the e-smith custom template to include +FollowSymlink and now it is working....
Next step is to get T3 to see that I have installed ImageMagick.
Can somebody tell me where Imagemagic is installed?
JensK
Hi there JensK!
I too tried to get typo3 running and hit the same wall.
1. Would you be so kind as to details the template you changed to include +FollowSymlink?
2. did you sort out Imagemagic?
TIA rob :pint:
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Jens,
Finding a good CMS isn't an easy task. There are alot of them out there and it takes a fair bit of time to really look at them. I think the first thing you need to decide is if you want a portal or a website. This will narrow down your search alot. If you are looking for a portal, Xoops (the CMS running contribs) is about one of the best I've seen and I've tried several of them. It install in minutes on SME.
If, on the other hand, you are looking for a CMS to manage your website, then I'd suggest Mambo Open Source or Phpwebsite. Of these two Mambo Open Source (MOS) is the easiest to install. PHPwebsite requires a newer version of PHP than is running on SME.
If I had to choose between the three of these, I'd pick Xoops in a minute. It's very user friendly CMS with many modules and a great community. You won't be disappointed.
Greg Zartman
Greg Zartman
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I too tried to get typo3 running and hit the same wall.
1. Would you be so kind as to details the template you changed to include +FollowSymlink?
2. did you sort out Imagemagic?
TIA rob :pint:
Hi Rob.
For other reasons I had to reinstall my testserver with the Typo3 installation. As I didn't get the Typo3 running i production I didn't document the installation. As I remember it the follow symlinks was put into custom templates etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf/85DefaultAccess.
The other way was to put it into a template for the specific ibay.
My major problem was not the followsymlinks but getting access to upload images and getting imagemagick to work.
It is a pity that Typo3 is handdicapped with such technical barriers. To me it seems like the king of CMS's. I have tested it under Windows and it looks like to a localcommunity site like the one I try to run this is the superior CMS.
I know there are many CMS's out there but I have seen no other with as many different features and with as neat user selfmaintainance and distributed editor facilities as Typo3. There is even a LDAP userdb interface.
I devote my spare time to help computer illiterate people in my community to be able to do safe computing and communication. The downside of this is that I do not have the spare time to solve all the technical issues in cases like this.
In the meantime our community site still relies on good old HMTL editors and the spare time of the webmaster (me).
If somebody could/would make an e-smith Typo3 RPM he or she would qualify to be permanent item in my prayers for a month or two.
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I too tried to get typo3 running and hit the same wall.
1. Would you be so kind as to details the template you changed to include +FollowSymlink?
2. did you sort out Imagemagic?
Instead of writing I'll add the ease one:
http://www.parkvej.dk/Using_SME_for_TYPO3__CMS.14.0.html
The ImageMagick is in one of the RPM's (please note that I just gathered the rpm's using different posts here)
The FollowSymLinks is at the bottom of the page.
/Peder
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I'm using Guppy at the moment. I will recomend that. It's a "PHPlight" that does not need any database. Works rather nice for "easy use"
http://www.freeguppy.org
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From www.typo3.org I have downloaded the quickinstall-3.5.0 and the typo3_src-3.5.0 tars and untarred them in an ibay.
At first I couldn't get it to work but then I realized that T3 is using symbolic links to chain the testsites and the sourcepackage together. I modified the e-smith custom template to include +FollowSymlink and now it is working.
Next step is to get T3 to see that I have installed ImageMagick. To do this I need to know where Imagemagick is installed under E-smith. I can see that there is some ImageMagick in /usr/lib but when I enter this path in the T3 configuration screen it states that there is no ImageMagick on the server.
Can somebody tell me where Imagemagic is installed?
JensK
I downloaded the test & src:
you can choose to download an empty filesset, the quickinstall (newcomers) or testsite.
In all 3 cases you need to also download the source.
The install notes for these are quite clear, but after you must
- in typo3/install/index.php # the line starting with die("In the main...
- add the text '+FollowSymlink' to the 'Option' line in the ibay section for where youve put your website, of the file /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
- instal Imagemagick (typo3 recommend the old 4.2.9 version so I went with that!), by go to typo3.sunsite.dk/software/linux;
download the file onto you sme box;
cd /usr/local; tar xvzf imagemagick-4.2.9.tar.gz
you should now be able to access Typo3 and get
your database setup (I had a password problem here, and in fixing it via myPhpAdmin, stuffed my access to myPhpAdmin - ce la guerre!).
Typo3 is BIG, and it seems importnat to run the Install Tool... (this very clever tool, seems typical of the quality of typo3)
1. Basic Configutation:
- Freetype2 is in use with SME, so 72 must be changed to 96 in the configuration [GFX][TTFdpi] - vi typo3/localconf.php to do this, or better still Ive found it in #4 below!
-ImageMagick is located other than where typo3 expects it: in the Check this path for ImageMagick installation, enter /usr/local/imagemagick-4.2.9/bin/
(do not check the LZW box), then SEND
- at the end of the page UPDATE LOCALCONF.PHP (or your changes do not stick)
2. Database Analyser worked ok for me.
3. Image Processing: all tests FAILED initially, but if you have done the above they should now all work!
(hey aint this install-test-tool COOL!)
4. All configuration
- [GFX][thumbnails_png] = 1 I prefer png to gif
- check im_path is correct
- [GFX][TTFdpi] = 96
- you may want to alter the ddmmyy format
- at the end WRITE TO LOCALCONF.PHP obviously.
I then ran the frontend (in a new window) from the link at the end of all the above pages.
All of the test pages now work for me (only the last one did from the out-of-the-box install!)
Any add-ons to these notes pls let me know:
I will clean them up into a how-to.
regards :pint: Rob
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Any add-ons to these notes pls let me know:
I will clean them up into a how-to.
regards :pint: Rob
Hi Rob.
I tried the install as you described and it works. I installed the 3.6.2 version of Typo3.
What I did different is that I prior to installing typo3 had installed:
e-smith-htaccess-1.1-2.noarch.rpm
ImageMagick-5.4.3.11-1.i386.rpm
libungif-4.1.0-10.i386.rpm
libtiff-3.5.7-1.i386.rpm
libpng-1.2.5-3.i386.rpm
bzip2-1.0.2-2.i386.rpm
freetype-2.0.1-1.i386.rpm
freetype-devel-2.0.1-1.i386.rpm
XFree86-libs-4.2.0-8.i386.rpm
I placed the Option +FollowSymlink in the .htaccess file in the html dir of the ibay.
I was even able to send a test mail from within the install tool event though the tool states that it couldn't find the sendmail deamon.
Thanks JensK
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Any add-ons to these notes pls let me know:
I will clean them up into a how-to.
regards :pint: Rob
Hi Rob.
I tried the install as you described and it works. I installed the 3.6.2 version of Typo3.
What I did different is that I prior to installing typo3 had installed:
e-smith-htaccess-1.1-2.noarch.rpm
ImageMagick-5.4.3.11-1.i386.rpm
libungif-4.1.0-10.i386.rpm
libtiff-3.5.7-1.i386.rpm
libpng-1.2.5-3.i386.rpm
bzip2-1.0.2-2.i386.rpm
freetype-2.0.1-1.i386.rpm
freetype-devel-2.0.1-1.i386.rpm
XFree86-libs-4.2.0-8.i386.rpm
I placed the Option +FollowSymlink in the .htaccess file in the html dir of the ibay.
I was even able to send a test mail from within the install tool event though the tool states that it couldn't find the sendmail deamon.
Thanks JensK
I am glad it all worked !
Email also worked for me even thought it said it could not find sendmail.
For others reading this I did not have to install JensK's list of rpm's (except Imagemagick per my notes)
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Guppy is a very "light and easy" CMS http://www.freeguppy.org
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From www.typo3.org I have downloaded the quickinstall-3.5.0 and the typo3_src-3.5.0 tars and untarred them in an ibay.
At first I couldn't get it to work but then I realized that T3 is using symbolic links to chain the testsites and the sourcepackage together. I modified the e-smith custom template to include +FollowSymlink and now it is working.
Next step is to get T3 to see that I have installed ImageMagick. To do this I need to know where Imagemagick is installed under E-smith. I can see that there is some ImageMagick in /usr/lib but when I enter this path in the T3 configuration screen it states that there is no ImageMagick on the server.
Can somebody tell me where Imagemagic is installed?
JensK
Hi!
I am in this moment trying to install typo3... but with no luck :-(
what template did you modifyed ?
have you found a solution to ImageMagick ?
sincerly
Sonny
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Hi, all
Anyone with step by step tutorials to install typo3 on SME 6.0 ?
I try to install with imagemagick download from http://www.parkvej.dk/
Using the install tools, after enter the default password joh316, change the password, directly go to all configuration, without basic configuration and database configuration.
Anyone please help,
Sean
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At first I couldn't get it to work but then I realized that T3 is using symbolic links to chain the testsites and the sourcepackage together. I modified the e-smith custom template to include +FollowSymlink and now it is working.
Would you mind identifying which template you edited? I know that mine and yours may be different but if you could be a little bit more specific that would help me a lot.
Next step is to get T3 to see that I have installed ImageMagick. To do this I need to know where Imagemagick is installed under E-smith. I can see that there is some ImageMagick in /usr/lib but when I enter this path in the T3 configuration screen it states that there is no ImageMagick on the server.
Can somebody tell me where Imagemagic is installed?
JensK
I followed a really old howto for Yappa that included the installation of Yappa. It has worked from E-Smith 4.1 to SME 6.0 that I am currently running. I have the rpms if you want them. Let me know.
Thanks
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I think Mambo is the best choice for ease of use. Very rich in features and I can't really see anything it cannot do. It is a great content management system!
I also understand that Mambo outperforms Plone by a landslide.
Ed