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Title: small x-windows for sme
Post by: toyman on October 25, 2003, 01:39:05 PM

hello,
is there any way to install a small x-windows on sme 6.0beta3 ?

Thanks, toyman

Title: Re: small x-windows for sme
Post by: Klaus Eckert on October 27, 2003, 12:53:54 AM

why do you need a X-windows?
it is a server and should do it's job.
i don't want my server to toggle around with that graphic-stuff...

cheers klaus

Title: Re: small x-windows for sme
Post by: Michael Smith on October 28, 2003, 09:42:36 AM

Toyman, your question (as have most) has been addressed before, and the short answer, as Mr. Eckert pointed out, is "why bother"?  None of the required libraries are available, and adding them would be a real pain.  You want a server with X-Windows, then customize a Mandrake or Redhat box.  You want a secure server that does its job without fuss, use SME.

Title: Re: small x-windows for sme
Post by: Jason Judge on December 06, 2003, 03:41:03 PM

There are certain tools that will only run under X, such as some RAID cards which allow you to dynamically resize and configure disks, but only through an X interface. Yes, it would be handy for that type of thing.

It ought to be possible to install an e-smith X contribution, without affecting security or eating excessively into resources. Isn't an X client just a program that runs in a shell? I'm sure it can be kept separate from the other server functions. It sounds simple enough in theory.

Title: Re: small x-windows for sme
Post by: rk on December 08, 2003, 04:42:00 PM

Jason,
I have been thinking about this too.  What I was hoping for was a 'thin' X server (if that is possible).  I've been reading over in the gentoo forums about creating a VNC server for X.  Then you can use ssh for security, and have a 'portable' desktop, even from the Internet.  I've been trying off and on for a few months to try to get the necessary X-sources installed, but without much sucess.

As for the 'why bother' questions.  Because I want to.  :P  Seriously, I don't run a major site, and I'd like to be able to have a server I can run X on.  Yes I could use my desktop machine, but unfortunately I need M$ in order to do my job (let's not get into 'you could use OpenOffice...' discussions).

rk

Title: Re: small x-windows for sme
Post by: toyman on December 21, 2003, 12:57:35 AM

Jason and rk,
if you have any good news about the "X"sme, please message me!

toyman@gmx.net

SME 5.6

Title: small x-windows for sme
Post by: adrianball on January 30, 2004, 11:21:48 AM

Slightly off topic...  I am forced to use M$ at work.  To run and X server, I installed cygwin, which has XFree86 ready-compiled - can't recommend it highly enough for those of us in M$ Hell.

Title: small x-windows for sme
Post by: matsk on February 02, 2004, 04:43:14 PM

I think that X on the SME server could be an good idea so that you could have the option to run an X-desktop on the server.

Surely this is not for all but I can see the advantages with it.

/Mats

Title: small x-windows for sme
Post by: matsk on February 02, 2004, 04:43:14 PM

I think that X on the SME server could be an good idea so that you could have the option to run an X-desktop on the server.

Surely this is not for all but I can see the advantages with it.

/Mats

Title: small x-windows for sme
Post by: matsk on February 02, 2004, 05:12:10 PM

I think that X on the SME server could be an good idea so that you could have the option to run an X-desktop on the server.

Surely this is not for all but I can see the advantages with it.

/Mats

Title: There's always a way...
Post by: adrianball on February 03, 2004, 09:12:44 AM

I guess what I was trying to get at with the mention of cygwin was that there's always a way of getting an X server on a client, no matter what OS it runs.  
Another alternative (for one-offs) is to boot a PC off a Knoppix CD or similar.  This gives you X without having to install a thing.  :-P