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Legacy Forums => General Discussion (Legacy) => Topic started by: Money-Poo2 on February 20, 2004, 03:26:41 PM
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I'm running XP Pro and SME Linux.
The SME box runs just fine - I can access it fully under Win98 and Win NT4. I'm having difficulty accessing via XP Pro.
My server (zeus) is the Linux box.
I enclose the relevant info. Can anybody assist?
I pinged zeus (192.168.40.10) and came up with nothing under the name
but with a response under the number.
I set the Local Area connection up as
IP 192.168.40.12
aubnet mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway 192.168.40.10
DNS Server 192.168.40.10
Wins server 192.168.40.10
Zeus (192.168.40.10) is setup to recognise 192.168.40.11 through
192.168.40.14
Zeus works. No problem with Zeus - my NT box and my 98 box both work well
with it.
The only way I can access files is via Internet Explorer FTP which means I
can read but not write :(
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>net view
There are no entries in the list.
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ping zeus
Ping request could not find host zeus. Please check the name and try again.
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ping 192.168.40.10
Pinging 192.168.40.10 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.40.10:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ip config
'ip' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig
Windows IP Configuration
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.12
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
PPP adapter Freeserve:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.78.86.195
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.78.86.195
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>
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Hey M-Poo
Are u using static ip for any particular reason? If not change to dynamic for simplicity. What is your ppp conection ? Have you set the ip etc statically on your ppp(dial up?)and if so why? Sounds like your dns resolution is heading off through your ppp for some fun! Try disabling your ppp conection and see if that works, then work backwards from there.
PaulM
:lol:
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<i>Are u using static ip for any particular reason? If not change to dynamic for simplicity. What is your ppp conection ? Have you set the ip etc statically on your ppp(dial up?)and if so why? Sounds like your dns resolution is heading off through your ppp for some fun! Try disabling your ppp conection and see if that works, then work backwards from there.</i>
I'm using a static IP principally because my whole network works on static IPs. The IP on my dial-up is dynamic. I was dialled up when I did the ipconfig. I've tried using the server both when I'm dailled up and when not. It still doesn't work.
The problem is XP, not the server. Microsoft has ensured that XP Pro is a major headache. I was tossing up whether to go for Mac or a Windows box when I built this computer. I was only 65% sure that I needed a Windows box as opposed to Mac. I need XP Pro to work properly (if that's possible with Windows).
MP
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I can still only use Internet Explorer to ftp my server. I cannot do anything else with it.
I can access via putty and ping but that's about all - except from httping the server manager page.
Well, I added
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\netlogon\parameters]
"RequireSignOrSeal"=dword:00000000
to the registry but I still cannot map the network drive. It still tells me it's not there. I tried pinging zeus and it worked. These are the new ping and ipconfig logs
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ping zeus
Pinging zeus [192.168.40.10] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.40.10:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig
Windows IP Configuration
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>
if config on zeus brings up
login as: root
root@zeus's password:
Last login: Fri Feb 20 17:01:23 2004 from pc-00011
Welcome to the Mitel Networks SME Server.
[root@zeus root]# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:02:A5:2B:5F
inet addr:192.168.40.10 Bcast:192.168.40.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/139
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:3980 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:5283 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0
RX bytes:288311 (281.5 Kb) TX bytes:5329638 (5.0 Mb)
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:0/0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0
RX bytes:471 (471.0 b) TX bytes:471 (471.0 b)
sl0 Link encap:Serial Line IP
inet addr:192.168.40.10 P-t-P:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.255
UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:1856 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:127491 (124.5 Kb)
[root@zeus root]#
Zeus is set up to permit only access from
192.168.40.11
192.168.40.12
192.168.40.13
192.168.40.14
Zeus will only map a network drive to 98 and to NT. XP rejects it as unknown.
All the systems run Outpost. Outpost is setup identically on all system, allowing access from 192.168.40.xx
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Could you run ipconfig /all and post that.
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This is with the server switched off but I'm online via the XP dial-up
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : apollo
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-26-F8-23
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
PPP adapter Freeserve:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.1.164
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.1.164
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.95
195.92.195.94
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>
This is ipconfig /all with both server and internet on simulteneously
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : apollo
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-26-F8-23
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
PPP adapter Freeserve:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.1.164
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.1.164
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.95
195.92.195.94
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>
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I dont see a wins server setting on the XP machine. You need to add it under the advanced tab in your TCP/IP properties.
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Ah. Now I don't have a Wins server setting setup on SME either.
It seems to want an IP address.
Should that be the same as my server IP address (192.168.40.10) or should it be different?
MP
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Dear Money-Poo2
Is that you Rhys, or am I just imagining it.
Ray
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How'd you guess, Ray?
Was it the server name and the IP address?
Or was it the fact I've asked a question that everybody else knows the answer to except me?
MP
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In your Network prefernces enter your SME servers IP-adress (192.168.40.10) as your WINS server.
Good luck.
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I'll recap. The configuration is:
XP Pro connects to the Internet via a modem and to the server via Cat5 at 100mbps. I set the wins configuration but something's still missing as I still cannot map the server drive
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : apollo
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-26-F8-23
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>
These are the settings on the server:
Review configuration
Networking Parameters
Server Mode servergateway-private
Local IP address / subnet mask 192.168.40.10/255.255.255.0
External IP address / subnet mask /255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.40.10
Additional local networks No additional networks defined
DHCP server enabled
Beginning of DHCP address range 192.168.40.65
End of DHCP address range 192.168.40.250
Server names
DNS server 192.168.40.10
Web server www.sageworld
Proxy server proxy.sageworld:3128
FTP server ftp.sageworld
SMTP, POP, and IMAP mail servers mail.sageworld
Domain information
Primary domain sageworld
Virtual domains No virtual domains defined
Primary web site http://www.sageworld
Mitel Networks SME Server manager http://zeus/server-manager/
Mitel Networks SME Server user password panel http://zeus/user-password/
Email Addresses useraccount@sageworld
firstname.lastname@sageworld
firstname_lastname@sageworld
I'm still no further advanced. My guess is that something's still wrong on XP.
The workgroup on XP is Workgroup (it's dones its own capitalisation) and workgroup on SME.
MP
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What do you see if on the XP box:
Start -> Run -> \\192.168.40.10
Does it bring up all the shares on the SME server?
I never configure WINS on any of my setups. IS your problem that you cannot see or use shares on the SME server from your new XP box?
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What do you see if on the XP box:
Start -> Run -> \\192.168.40.10
Does it bring up all the shares on the SME server?
I never configure WINS on any of my setups. IS your problem that you cannot see or use shares on the SME server from your new XP box?
I typed the above and it came up with a warning box stating that the network location could not be reached. That's particularly interesting as immediately after I logged in via Putty as root. Then I tried again, with the same reponse. It seems that XP cannot see the server wheras the parts of XP such as ping and ftp can.
My problem is that I cannot open the folders on the server as though they were folders on my XP box. I used to be able to do this under 98. I cannot store data onto the server although I can retrieve from. I cannot locate folders using Windows Explorer as I could under 98.
MP
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You are not authenticating on server. Make a new user account on the XP box - a different user that you know normally has access to SME server. Try login to XP with that account and try Start->Run->\\192.168.xxxxxx again. Be sure the account you add has exactly same name and password as on SME.
XP new install likes to use the users full name as the login id (if you let it). Then even of you change the name it still uses the original for netlogon. On XP, try Start -> Control Panel -> Admin Tools -> Computer Management -> Local Users -> Users. The 'name' column must show exact logon name as on the SME server. Does it? Is it all lower case?
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You are not authenticating on server. Make a new user account on the XP box - a different user that you know normally has access to SME server. Try login to XP with that account and try Start->Run->\\192.168.xxxxxx again. Be sure the account you add has exactly same name and password as on SME.
XP new install likes to use the users full name as the login id (if you let it). Then even of you change the name it still uses the original for netlogon. On XP, try Start -> Control Panel -> Admin Tools -> Computer Management -> Local Users -> Users. The 'name' column must show exact logon name as on the SME server. Does it? Is it all lower case?
When I set up the XP accounts, I set myself up as admin, which seems to have a capital first letter (don't know whether XP did that by itself).
I've always logged in as admin via SME. Never bothered to set up any i-bays or user accounts. Win 98 always seemed to work happily enough without as does NT4. I'm only getting the problems with XP Pro.
Should I set up an I-Bay?
MP
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What do you see when you go into My network places & click on View workgroup computers (last option on network tasks)?
You should see your SME box. If not, make sure the SME is set as a browse master & wait a while (up to 2 hours, IME) for the next browser election to happen, then try again.
BTW, setting the SME as the WINS server & browse master is a good idea IMHO.
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What do you see when you go into My network places & click on View workgroup computers (last option on network tasks)?
You should see your SME box. If not, make sure the SME is set as a browse master & wait a while (up to 2 hours, IME) for the next browser election to happen, then try again.
BTW, setting the SME as the WINS server & browse master is a good idea IMHO.
Ok. I opened My Network Places. Up came the window. In that window were "Add Network Place", "Network Setup Wizard" and "Entire Network" and that's all (aside from two ftp connections to zeus).
I had a look on the XP CD and installed some features that weren't on but still no luck.
MP
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I think I've followed everything through as best as possible. I added all the optional features to XP Pro bar Windows Messenger.
The current ipconfig /a for XP Pro is
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : apollo
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-26-F8-23
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::20d:61ff:fe26:f823%5
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
PPP adapter Freeserve:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.42.237
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.42.237
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.95
195.92.195.94
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 80-00-F1-FF-26-79-D5-12
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%4
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Tunnel adapter 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : D9-86-2A-ED
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:d986:2aed::d986:2aed
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:836b:213c::836b:213c
2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : D9-86-2A-ED
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:217.134.42.237%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-28-0B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.40.11%2
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>
The current configuration for the server is:
Review configuration
Networking Parameters
Server Mode servergateway-private
Local IP address / subnet mask 192.168.40.10/255.255.255.0
External IP address / subnet mask /255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.40.10
Additional local networks No additional networks defined
DHCP server enabled
Beginning of DHCP address range 192.168.40.65
End of DHCP address range 192.168.40.250
Server names
DNS server 192.168.40.10
Web server www.sageworld
Proxy server proxy.sageworld:3128
FTP server ftp.sageworld
SMTP, POP, and IMAP mail servers mail.sageworld
Domain information
Primary domain sageworld
Virtual domains No virtual domains defined
Primary web site http://www.sageworld
Mitel Networks SME Server manager http://zeus/server-manager/
Mitel Networks SME Server user password panel http://zeus/user-password/
Email Addresses useraccount@sageworld
firstname.lastname@sageworld
firstname_lastname@sageworld
The workgroup is Workgroup with a big W just like in XP.
As before, I can FTP, ping and putty but cannot enter using Windows explorer. The directories will not share.
I'm still stumped. And yes... I left the server running for over 2 hours.
I wonder whethe rthe DHCP range might be off?
LDAP directory access is set to private. Is this the problem?
It's set for Workgroup and domain controller.
I've looked through the user guide 5.1 (this is server 5.6) and can see nothing that points in any particular direction.
Is this a soluble problem?
MP
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I set SME as windows and workgroup controller. Immediately I lost control over the server. It refused to respond to Putty. It refused to respond to anything other than pings.
Then, when I tried to browse the web, my XP system slowed to a crawl. I tried to disable the ethernet connection and XP crashed, after wish it sent one of its little messages to Microsoft.
It's all very disheartening so far.
MP
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>How'd you guess, Ray?
> Was it the server name and the IP address?
zeus ?
DNS ?
WINS ?
> Or was it the fact I've asked a question that
> everybody else knows the answer to except me?
also yes
I have a good memory
I had heard (read)it all before.
I'll say it again (nicely of course) but why don't you just setup your server and workstations for auto everything. It should work correctly first go.
Then when it's working right you can play to your hearts content to manually change settings IPs etc etc, possibly breaking it along the way, but at least you know it was something you changed that stuffed things up. Undo what you did and you will learn which thing (change) breaks your system.
Regs
Ray
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> How'd you guess, Ray?
> Was it the server name and the IP address?
I have a good memory for zeus monkeys !!
> Or was it the fact I've asked a question that
> everybody else knows the answer to except me?
That's very funny Rhys, had me in fits of laughter.
Setting everything to auto is not a bad idea, it generally works without a problem then. You can manually change settings after that and see what breaks and then undo the changes. Good way to learn
Good luck, keep trying and listen to the advice given.
Regs
Ray
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Well, Windows decided it wanted to download more updates. That went well.
Then I switched the server on and fairly shortly after, the whole system went tits up and XP simply froze.
I did a hard reset and tried the suggestion that I set everything on XP to auto. The system went tits up again and froze, necessiting another hard reset.
I set everything back the way it was and the whole system froze again then suddenly unfroze and displayed SME Server in the Workgroup.
I'm happy with the result but not with the process as it seems to defy logic.
MP