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Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: gla on September 06, 2004, 11:39:06 PM
Hi all,

The SMERP project announce its first SME Server module.
we have just releasing a complete fax server with panels, templates, etc....
The contrib is based on the project Hylafax 4.1.8

This contrib allows to configure, and use a fax network server without particular knowledge under Linux, and is faithful to the e-smith spirit

The user can send and receive faxes since his machine with simple office software, without installing any application on the workstation.
The unique action to be realized on the local workstation is the installation of a postcript driver pointing a virtual SAMBA printer on the SME Server.

This version of the module is in beta-test, please do not use it on a production server.

You will find rpm, sources and documentation at the following URL http://smerp.free.fr/ in the download section.

The module is available in french & english.
A spanish version is in progress.

English version of the documentation will arrive soon... and it's not writing by me  ;-)
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: bobk on September 07, 2004, 12:30:33 AM
Will this rpm up-date an existing installation of hylafax or will the existing instalation need to be completely uninstalled first?

The existing installation was done on SME 6.0.1 using D. May's dmc-mitel-hylafax-pkg-4.1.5-1.noarch.rpm then updated with hylafax-4.1.7-1rh7.i386. Configuration was accomplished using Ed Form's howto located at http://www.workgroupsolutions.co.uk.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: gla on September 07, 2004, 09:39:09 AM
I think it's better to uninstall your hylafax first.
I never try to update, but I install some other stuff (ghostscript, metamail, libtiff...) and I'm affraid that you will have some problem with that or you can have conflict problem between panel/template and other.

But first of all, I think it's really important to install this contrib on a test machine to understand how it works, and which kind of functionality it provides.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: mbachmann on September 07, 2004, 02:50:56 PM
Best to install cups contrib beforehand because libtiff, ghostscript et alii included in cups.

The "now you will have to run /tmp/SMERPFax.ins/SMERPFax_ins.sh" at the end of the install routine is very likely to be overseen.

Installation went flawlessly. On config changes of the panel it does not return to itself, there is just a white page and you'll have to click on "Fax Server" again, a little irritating. The fax printer is there. Nice.

I see the pdf manual (only) in french, luckily i can it better than speak.

Now i'm searching an old faxmodem...

FaxGetty[3194]: MODEM U.S. ROBOTICS SPORTSTER FLASH 56000 REV. 10.3.80 5601
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: Knuddi on September 07, 2004, 04:04:13 PM
Hi Gla,

Why don't you place the install script inside the RPM so that everything is installed automatically during the rpm -Uvh?

/Knuddi
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: gla on September 07, 2004, 06:16:20 PM
Quote from: "mbachmann"

On config changes of the panel it does not return to itself, there is just a white page and you'll have to click on "Fax Server" again, a little irritating.

It's a bug, I will correct this soon. thx

Quote from: "mbachmann"

I see the pdf manual (only) in french, luckily i can it better than speak.

The en/us documentation will arrive next week
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: gla on September 07, 2004, 06:19:45 PM
Quote from: "Knuddi"
Hi Gla,

Why don't you place the install script inside the RPM so that everything is installed automatically during the rpm -Uvh?

/Knuddi


Because I put the other rpm inside mine, and I don't know how to install them !

you can't type rpm - ivh MyRPM.x.y and inside some other rpm to install with the same command.
(but maybe, it exists a special option ??)
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: Knuddi on September 07, 2004, 06:58:52 PM
In your .spec file you can add a section called %post in which you can add the exact same script as you expect the users to call after rpm -ivh *.rpm

In below example I restart the crond deamon. The only thing you have to remember is that you need full path to alll funtions.

%post

# restart Crond to activate the clean queue script
/sbin/service crond restart

/jesper
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: charlien on September 07, 2004, 11:49:14 PM
Does this fax solution deal with cover pages?
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: mbachmann on September 08, 2004, 10:14:11 AM
Are you kidding, Charlien? http://www.hylafax.org/FAQ/
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: gla on September 08, 2004, 10:24:38 AM
Quote from: "Knuddi"
In your .spec file you can add a section called %post in which you can add the exact same script as you expect the users to call after rpm -ivh *.rpm

In below example I restart the crond deamon. The only thing you have to remember is that you need full path to alll funtions.

%post

# restart Crond to activate the clean queue script
/sbin/service crond restart

/jesper


thx, but I already try that... I think you can't call rpm command in the post section of a rpm.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: mbachmann on September 08, 2004, 10:47:07 AM
Gla, i offer my help in translating the french pdf SMERPFax: Serveur de fax en réseau (FR).
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: gla on September 08, 2004, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: "mbachmann"
Gla, i offer my help in translating the french pdf SMERPFax: Serveur de fax en réseau (FR).


Thanks a lot.
Our translator is very busy at the moment
She's translating the web site.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: mbachmann on September 13, 2004, 02:38:26 PM
I am halfway through. Expect it at mid of this week.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: cydonia on September 14, 2004, 07:27:01 AM
Is this rpm the best current option for using SME to send/recieve faxes?

Faxing using computers/modems is still new to me, I have looked into Hylafax in the past but since this was made specifically for SME, it sounds great.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: duncan on September 15, 2004, 06:06:35 AM
A bit OT

If anyone is interested - I have some slightly modified scripts from here (http://www.hylafax.org/howto/clients/RelayFax.html) for the relayfax client.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: gla on September 27, 2004, 01:11:11 PM
Thanks to mbachmann who send me the translation of SMERPFax documentation.

For now, the documentation is available in french & english.
I'm looking for spanish translator  ;-)

You can find them at http://smerp.free.fr/download.html
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: mbachmann on October 01, 2004, 09:46:25 AM
I must admit that the english translation is a bit odd, because i have not understood everything in full detail - although i live together with a french woman. So if the english transl. is partly screwed - blame it on me.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: azche24 on October 10, 2004, 08:45:11 AM
Hi,

how can I use WHFC or another Hylafax-Client with this wonderful contrib?

We need a real "print client" because 90 % of our outgoing faxes are scanned -> print -> fax type.

When using the WHFC client 1.2x, it gives me user/password errors.

Would it be the opportunity to make a faxmaster group (instead of pseudo, what i did now) and attach the outgoing senders to it?

And: Excellent panel -again! This was the first time after about 4 years of "e-smithing" i got a real-life hylafax to work  8-)
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: gla on October 11, 2004, 10:14:52 AM
I don't know well WHFC, but I think that certain problems can occur.
SMERPFax doesn't modify Hylafax, and doesn't change the way it works, but the mode of configuration is different.
Indeed, several files of configuration are modified by templates and inside panel.

It implies that the modifications brought by the users will not be saved into configuration files after a restart of the server, because in that case, these files will be dynamically generated by templates.

Except this problem, I think that the hylafax clients work normally with the contrib SMERPFax.

Let's try & enjoy...  ;-)
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: duncan on October 11, 2004, 10:36:30 AM
I have some modified scripts - based on this howto - http://www.hylafax.org/howto/clients/RelayFax.html - working here if you want them. It requires the use of procmail in geek mode to work.

Regards Duncan
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: azche24 on October 11, 2004, 10:53:25 AM
Hi, Duncan!
Quote from: "duncan"
I have some modified scripts - based on this howto - h

No thanx - i tested Relayfax client. My users did not like it.

Also: There was a servere configuration problem with SMERP and also with the hylafax_install.sh from knuddi:

No user-access possible...; i had to add username::: manually for every active user to /var/spool/hylafax/etc/hosts.hfd (as far as i remember now) - i am still testing the stuff.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: psoren on October 11, 2004, 11:50:10 PM
Quote from: "duncan"
I have some modified scripts - based on this howto - http://www.hylafax.org/howto/clients/RelayFax.html - working here if you want them. It requires the use of procmail in geek mode to work.

Regards Duncan


Duncan,

I am interested in the scripts. Do you have a link to download from or can you mail them to me: XXXXXXX
Why are they modified and why geek mode?

Per
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: duncan on October 12, 2004, 11:35:01 AM
Quote from: "psoren"
Quote from: "duncan"
I have some modified scripts - based on this howto - http://www.hylafax.org/howto/clients/RelayFax.html - working here if you want them. It requires the use of procmail in geek mode to work.

Regards Duncan


Duncan,

I am interested in the scripts. Do you have a link to download from or can you mail them to me: hyla_AT_per-s.dk
Why are they modified and why geek mode?

Per


Modified to remove the mail to fax gateway feature.
Geek mode to prevent the .procmailrc file from being over written when users are updated.
Title: New contrib for SME (Network Fax Server)
Post by: psoren on October 12, 2004, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: "duncan"


Modified to remove the mail to fax gateway feature.
Geek mode to prevent the .procmailrc file from being over written when users are updated.


Thanks for the scripts!

But what do you mean "to remove the mail to fax gateway feature"?

I already used the scripts i got from Chaloner Hale, but they had som issues (couldn't read .faxitrc), got that fixed but then they generated 2 jobs each time. Yours seems to work fine.

The geek mode trick is good, i had trouble with there too :-)

Per
Title: The best W2K / XP client I've seen
Post by: pwgsc1 on October 13, 2004, 01:12:16 AM
Hey folks,

The best client I've seen for Hylafax is  Hylafsp.  It does cost some money but it is the sweetest one I've found that works like it's suppose to, has coverpage selection built in and does multi number faxing (I think).  For the $20-25 dollars or less ifyou buy in bulk, it's well worth it.

The link is  http://www.ifax.com/HylaFSP/      They also have a 30 day trial version.

Thanks,

Craig

P.S.  I'm in no way, shape or form associated with IFax.  Just liked the product after having tried most of the others and not been happy because they didn't meet my clients requirements.