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Legacy Forums => Experienced User Forum => Topic started by: cosy on March 09, 2006, 01:54:53 PM
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Hi All,
I'm a home user and looking for setup the best VOIP Solutions i just read the forum and found 2 setup 1. Asterisk@Home & 2. SAIL Asterisk
So which one i should use or differenc between these 2?
I got billion router and TPG ADSL So do i need to sign for engin montly Service?
Can i simply remove my land Line? :hammer:
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I've had a look at both on my SME7pre4 setup.
Both have good features ... really depends on what you are after ... I'm new to asterisk but sail has done a lot of nice work to there version but for me ... laks a few nice features off the astrisk@home ver ... unless of course there just hidden.
Best way to see what you are after is load both on and find out for your self.
When I loaded the asterisk@home 2.6 on from there site using the sme_install.sh it didn't load properly for me. But when I loaded the ver off firewall services on first then used the one from asterisk@home as an update it all worked well.
It would be nice if the two parties came together and put the best features of both versions together.
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I forgot to mention
If you don't want to play arround with the astrisk setups there is a more simpler way to get a good voip setup.
At the moment I use a Sipura 3000 to do all my phone calls.
http://www.sipura.com/products/spa3000.htm
Very easy to setup ... also it has an added bonus ... if the network or internet goes donw then it auto switches to the PSTN line.
I run it with Astratel ... I find them one of the best arround here in Ausi land ... no monthly charge 10c untimed all raound Australia and 29c/min to mobile.
Been using this setup for about 6 months now with no probs at all.
I'm just playing arround with asterisk for the fun of it ... not sure if I could justify spending money on the addon card to recieve PSTN calls through asterisk.
Also with the Sipura 3000 you can have ... I think ... up to 5 diff providers at once so it makes a good little unit. You have to setup a dial plan but there a plenty of places on the net that have examples.
I made my own dial plan up using all the examples out there.
Regards,
Tib.
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Hi,
Thank you for your time and reply. I just install the SME Server and will install the both into this server.
To recevie PSTN calles, what sort of card do i need?
If i use this Astaltel with that supra box, How you reduce the Telstra Bill ?
We have to pay the line rentles isn't it?
What sort of Phone number we can get with this VOIP service?
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cosy
To recieve you'll have to get a Wildcard TDM400 or similar ... just do a search on them you'll find sites etc.
I have my sipura box setup so all my local/interstate/mobile calls go through Astratel (Voip) and the rest go through the PSTN line.
To do this you need a good dial plan (script).
If your in QLD Australia you can use mine or use it as a base to build on. If you need it I can post it when I get home.
You still have to pay for line rental ... but go to the $18.50 plan. My last telstra bill was for about $120.00 and that was for 6 months ... lol.
All my calls go through the internet (Astratel) unless my network is down or I have to do 13xxxx or 1300 numbers etc ... Astratel doesn't support them yet.
Astratel have phone numbers you can purchase as well but unless you are feeling generous and want to pay for other ppl to have cheaper calls I wouldn't bother unless of course you are runing a business and have offices in diff states.
I'm in the middle of testing out the asterisk setup (Sail ver) I'll keep you posted with any findings I have. I have a feeling you can route the asterisk box through the sipura 3000 and not bother about a TDM400 card ... I could be wrong but I will check tonight.
Regards,
Tib
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HI TIB,
I like your Idea and i'm in melbourne so if you can send that dial plan i can do some resarch and can make it correct as per melbourne.
What that Script do?
ATM i'm paying 80$ per month Plus 65$ for ADSL. How about call quality with u'r ADSL?
Thanks
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cosy
My ADSL is with aanet ... I find them really good so far.
VOIP is with Astratel ... no monthly charges ... you just have to setup an account and buy credits ... you have 12 months to use it.
Once you join up with them you'll see the diff credits you can get.
Voice quality is really good ... most ppl can't even tell that I'm calling them through voip.
Below is the script I use ... I'd have to sit down and work it all out again if you need a break down of it ... took me a while to stream line it to Australian setup.
(000S0<:@gw0>|1[89]0[02]xxxxxxS0<:@gw0>|13[1-9]xxxS0<:@gw0>|1300xxxxxxS0<:@gw0>|1223S0<:@gw0>|<1194S0<:@gw0>|<#0:>xx.<:@gw0>|8888xxxxS0|<0011:>xx.<:@gw0>|<:07>[35]xxxxxxx|0[2348]xxxxxxxx)
I think this is the only bit you need to change .. 0[2348]xxxxxxxx) this bit basically says that any number that starts with 02, 03, 04, or 08 goes through viop you will have to take out your prefix and put 7 instead of it ... this is for all the interstate numbers as well as mobiles..
Then there is this one <:07>[35]xxxxxxx| ... this means put an 07 infront of any number that starts with a 3 or 5 eg if I call 33871599 it will automatically put an 07 infront of it .... this is a requirement when you use astratel.
Also I do this so I don't have to put a 07 for local numbers all the time ... again you will have to substitute this one with your perfix.
Any other questions just ask ... if you have problems setting up your SPA3000 to connect to Astratel let me know.
Regards,
Tib
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For diff setup for dial plans check this place out ... there really good at helping ... this is where I found all my setting from.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=332476&p=12
Be really carefull if you copy and past from here though ... there should be no spaces when you do the dial plan ... take out any spaces if there are any.
Regards,
Tib
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Hi,
Thanks, Now i got few questions.
1. what ADSL Plan shoud i use? i got 256/64 atm
2. How many PSTN line can connect to this Supra Box?
3. If 1 or 2 PSTN line conect through this box do i still need this dialup script?
4. Where is this script install?
5. Can you send me the block diagram how should i connect all the equipments, email to mcosy@hotmail.com
6. If i buy bilion VoIP (802.11g) ADSL2+ Modem/Router can i do the same with Sipura 3000 ?
thanks
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Your ADLS plan should be fine for one call at a time plus internet etc as long as you don't try and download surf and talk all at the same time ... unless of course you have some traffic shaping so that voip has 1st preference.
You can only connect 1 PSTN line into the SPA3000 ... if you want more then you should setup Asterisk with a TDM400 card and get the required modules on it.
With The TDM400 you can get a variety of setups 1 FXS + 3 FXO or 2 + 2 or 3 + 1 .. depending on your requirements ... also you don't have to get all 4 modules if not required ... just get what you need.
If you use the SPA3000 you need to use some sort of dial plan ... even with the Asterisk setup you need to have a dial plan if you use PSTN and voip.
The script gets installed on the SPA3000 in the Advanced mode and in the Line 1 tab. In Asterisk it's on one of the setup pages ... I'm still working an The Sail ver of the Asterisk setup ... just waiting for an upgrade there doing atm so as you can use the SPA3000 through asterisk.
As for the Bilion modem ... I can't help you there ... maybe you could ask on the whirlpool forums ... I'm sure you'll find plenty of info there.
I will send you a diagram of the setup I have atm ... seems to work well but I think in the long run I will prob change to the asterisk setup ... either through the SPA3000 or I might even get a TDM400 card.
It will depend on how good things will run through the SPA3000.
Regards,
Tib
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Hi,
I just found the VOIP provider called
www.freecall.net.au and 1c for 1 min??/ I think this is cheap.
TIb, i didn't received your setup diagram can you send me pls.. I just check with other guys and found Billon router do all the stuff like SPA3000.
and auto convert to PSTN.
What is the benifit with linking to Asterisk?
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Sorry cosy,
I will do one up and send it soon.
http://www.astrasip.com.au I found was good ... no monthly fee
10c calls flat rate all around Australia and 29c/min mobile calls.
I also found that the call quality was very good ... I have my parents and one of my friends on them as well.
I don't know much about the billion router.
I have my SPA3000 connected to my asterisk now ... working well.
Asterisk is basically a PABX in the sense that it can do what the businesses have.
You can setup the digital receptionist to pick up the call and ask what extension they would like to be connected to etc as well as queues conference calls etc.
I even have a soft phone setup at work that connects into my asterisk box so I can call my wife at home or she can call me at work for free :)
I'll send you a diagram of what I used to have setup ... and my setup now.
I did a sketch but it was in OpenOffice so I though it would be useless to you unless you load OpenOffice on your machine .... I run Linux at home not windows .... and didn't have a copy of MS office at home.
I purchased a copy of MS office on Monday mainly for the kids for school work etc so I can do a sketch in office for you now.
Regards,
Tib.
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HI TIB,
Thanks for your help, I have install the SAIL to new SME 7RC1 Server as a Server Only mode and i can see the SAIL PBX Under SME Server-manager and can get into stat & fop.
1. How do i configure the SAIL PBX on this Server and connect to my Workstation Softphone?
2. Is that possible to speack to you or MSN to you?
3. Can you email the Screenshot of PBX Configuration or how to document?
Globle setings, greetings, trnklines etc etc..
4. Network VOIP Diagram?
mcosy@hotmail.com
Thanks