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Obsolete Releases => SME Server 7.x => Topic started by: william_syd on July 23, 2007, 09:52:26 AM

Title: Smolt
Post by: william_syd on July 23, 2007, 09:52:26 AM: Bugzilla Bug 868

Where do the SME servers get listed? On the fedora stats page or on a SMEserver stats page?

Can it be disabled?

I'll probably get answers after a yum upgrade :)
Title: Smolt
Post by: kruhm on July 25, 2007, 07:36:10 AM: http://smolt.contribs.org/
Title: Smolt
Post by: okepc on July 25, 2007, 09:16:16 AM: stats and devices are password protected.

Why?

Dirk
Title: Smolt
Post by: william_syd on July 27, 2007, 01:15:47 PM: Quote from: "okepc"

Why?

Ditto.
Title: Smolt
Post by: william_syd on July 27, 2007, 01:16:47 PM: Quote from: "kruhm"
http://smolt.contribs.org/

Thanks.

I see it can be disabled via the configuration db.

And my uuid is not in there yet.

Code: [Select]
cat /etc/sysconfig/hw-uuid

Is now.

Code: [Select]
/usr/bin/smoltSendProfile
Title: Smolt
Post by: p-jones on July 27, 2007, 01:52:21 PM: It seems to know something about my hardware...

Hardware : Crap!
20 Fri Jul 27 05:50:47 2007 Error: Critical: UUID Not Found - 8F278AC4-47B7-11DB-A058-DC91007AE515
Title: Smolt
Post by: william_syd on July 27, 2007, 02:07:00 PM: Quote from: "p-jones"
It seems to know something about my hardware...

Hardware : Crap!
20 Fri Jul 27 05:50:47 2007 Error: Critical: UUID Not Found - 8F278AC4-47B7-11DB-A058-DC91007AE515

I got that on my first attempt.

Now I get...

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http://smolt.smeserverpro.com/show?UUID=3A5F3264-3BF2-11DC-8AD1-9CAC8928C2E0
Title: Smolt
Post by: raem on July 27, 2007, 04:33:43 PM: william_syd, p-jones & all

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http://smolt.smeserverpro.com/show?UUID=3A5F3264-3BF2-11DC-8AD1-9CAC8928C2E0
[/quote]

If you have edited /etc/motd (via a custom template of course) to provide site specific information when logging in via ssh, then the OS information send to the smolt server may reveal private details, depending on what your modified /etc/motd says.

If you wish to disable smolt
config setprop smolt status disabled
/etc/init.d/smolt stop
rm /etc/cron.d/smolt
(or move the cron file somewhere else)
/etc/init.d/crond restart
Title: Smolt
Post by: p-jones on July 27, 2007, 04:51:29 PM: What is the down side to disabling it ? I am still trying to figure what its all about.

The best I can get at the moment is that it is a module borrowed from Uncle Bill :D to give the developers some statistics to develop to.
Title: Smolt
Post by: william_syd on July 27, 2007, 06:06:21 PM: And you can remove your details off the server with...

Code: [Select]
/usr/bin/smoltDeleteProfile
Title: Smolt
Post by: pfloor on July 27, 2007, 06:13:47 PM: Quote from: "p-jones"
What is the down side to disabling it ? I am still trying to figure what its all about.

The best I can get at the moment is that it is a module borrowed from Uncle Bill :D to give the developers some statistics to develop to.

Smolt was added as a test in an attempt to come up with a viable hardware database and basic statistics for SME. It was tested on several test servers before it was put into the base but it is currently not working as expected.

Due to the extensive server-side configuration, The collection database server is a small, local server on one of the devs connection for testing and ease of configuration and doesn't have the upload bandwidth to support multiple queries. The front page is visible but the rest is not to conserve bandwidth.

As soon as the server side is working properly, it will be moved to a reliable, permanent connection.

smeserver-smolt is not intended to collect any personal information whatsoever. Your machine automatically generates a UUID for tracking that does not contain any personal information.

It is intended to send the UUID and the hardware data to generate the database and that's it. That database will in turn be available to everyone as soon as it is working properly and is moved it to a better connection.

Please limit access to smolt until it is perfected and moved to a better location.

Quote from: "RayMitchell"
If you have edited /etc/motd (via a custom template of course) to provide site specific information when logging in via ssh, then the OS information send to the smolt server may reveal private details, depending on what your modified /etc/motd says.

This is a perfect example of why it is password protected for now. smeserver-smolt is not intended to collect personal information and if there is something that causes personal/wrong information to be collected and/or displayed, it needs to be corrected before it is made all out accessable to all. The problem above certianly needs to be addressed, thanks for pointing it out Ray.

Please stay tuned for updates.
Title: Smolt
Post by: raem on July 28, 2007, 02:58:43 AM: paul

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Smolt was added as a test in an attempt to come up with a viable hardware database and basic statistics for SME... but it is currently not working as expected.

Thanks for the explanation, I had seen nothing mentioned about smolt, except this thread. The idea is good and I have no problem with devs doing something like that.

Quote from: "RayMitchell"
If you have edited /etc/motd ... the OS information send to the smolt server may reveal private details...

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This is a perfect example of why it is password protected for now. The problem above certainly needs to be addressed, thanks for pointing it out Ray.

Even "as is" with login required to view "stats" or "devices" data, I can still look at william_syd's hardware stats by calling up the URL he posted, without requiring a login or password.

Do you want/prefer that I post my observations as bug report ?
Title: Smolt
Post by: slords on July 28, 2007, 03:38:39 AM: If you know the UUID of a machine you can see it. But the only way you will get the UUID of a machine is if you post it or you look it up on your machine.