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Title: no access via SSH or server-manager
Post by: K.S. on March 26, 2002, 12:59:44 AM
I set up SM 5.1.2 in a VMWare virtual machine for evaluation purposes. The setup went very nice, however, now I can't access administration.

1. server-manager via localhost text-mode browser: works
2. server-manager from other workstation via browser to http://machine/server-manager/: authentication fails
3. SSH: wrong password

I'm using "admin" plus the correct password each time. It's obvious that I can't mistype the password that many times and it's sure that the password is correct because I can access from localhost via text-mode browser.

So, what's the problem here?

Thanks.
Title: Re: no access via SSH or server-manager
Post by: trevorb on March 26, 2002, 01:34:06 AM
I don't think this answers your question, but it may give you something else to look at.

You can only use the server-manager pages from within your local network (there are ways around this with ssh tunnels etc., but lets not digress). Have you set up your sme server as part of your local network?

Good Luck
Trevor B

K.S. wrote:
>
> I set up SM 5.1.2 in a VMWare virtual machine for evaluation
> purposes. The setup went very nice, however, now I can't
> access administration.
>
> 1. server-manager via localhost text-mode browser: works
> 2. server-manager from other workstation via browser to
> http://machine/server-manager/: authentication fails
> 3. SSH: wrong password
>
> I'm using "admin" plus the correct password each time. It's
> obvious that I can't mistype the password that many times and
> it's sure that the password is correct because I can access
> from localhost via text-mode browser.
>
> So, what's the problem here?
>
> Thanks.
Title: Re: no access via SSH or server-manager
Post by: K.S. on March 26, 2002, 02:14:22 AM
I don't know what "set up your sme server as part of your local network" means in this respect. The machine got a local static IP from within our network, it knows the internet gateway, it knows the nameserver, it knows the network mask. So, from this it should be able to determine that the machine I'm trying to access it from is within the same subnet, shouldn't it? Also, I tried to add this network as a "local network" and the server manager told me that it was already recognized as such and I couldn't add it. So, this machine is local, but I still can't get in.
I set the SME server up as "server-only" if that matters.
Does this restriction also apply for SSH? I suppose not? Nevertheless it doesn't let me in claiming a wrong password.
If this would be a "non-local network" issue the server shouldn't send me a login at all but deny access right away. So I suspect that there's really some mismatch concerning username/password, although it obviosly works over the localhost server-manager (which doesn't ask me for the username, only for the password). User "admin" is the correct one, isn't it? I first tried "root" but figured from the screens that the admin user actually is "admin".
Isn't there a console I could boot into instead of that "Server Console" which isn't one? Then I could troubleshoot this from "within".
Title: Re: no access via SSH or server-manager
Post by: trevorb on March 27, 2002, 01:24:51 AM
It certainly sounds like your sme server is part of the 'local' network & therefore the server-manager panels should be OK. You don't have to add a local network unless you are using a different subnet.

Yes the user id you should be using is the admin one. (server-only should be fine).

Can you telnet/ssh into the server from a different PC? Can you even ping it? Through port 980?

Again this doesn't answer why http://machine/server-manager doesn't work, but may lead us a little further down the track to a solution.

Good Luck
Trevor B

K.S. wrote:
>
> I don't know what "set up your sme server as part of your
> local network" means in this respect. The machine got a local
> static IP from within our network, it knows the internet
> gateway, it knows the nameserver, it knows the network mask.
> So, from this it should be able to determine that the machine
> I'm trying to access it from is within the same subnet,
> shouldn't it? Also, I tried to add this network as a "local
> network" and the server manager told me that it was already
> recognized as such and I couldn't add it. So, this machine is
> local, but I still can't get in.
> I set the SME server up as "server-only" if that matters.
> Does this restriction also apply for SSH? I suppose not?
> Nevertheless it doesn't let me in claiming a wrong password.
> If this would be a "non-local network" issue the server
> shouldn't send me a login at all but deny access right away.
> So I suspect that there's really some mismatch concerning
> username/password, although it obviosly works over the
> localhost server-manager (which doesn't ask me for the
> username, only for the password). User "admin" is the correct
> one, isn't it? I first tried "root" but figured from the
> screens that the admin user actually is "admin".
> Isn't there a console I could boot into instead of that
> "Server Console" which isn't one? Then I could troubleshoot
> this from "within".