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Obsolete Releases => SME Server 7.x => Topic started by: 7eis on December 02, 2007, 11:57:33 PM
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First, I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but it's my best shot, so feel free to move it :cool:
While changing hard drive in our server we managed to make it malfunction :( R.I.P. 566mhz celly & 2x128mb ram
Since there wont be support for i586 from SME Server 8.0 I wanted to check with your if this embedded solution depends on that instruction set.
VIA EPIA-LN10000EG, C7/1000Mhz, Mini-ITX ,CN700, DDR2 and fanless design
Link: http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=339460&view=detailed#ProductTabs
Also a little offtopic: How does this solution (+1gb ram) compare to the 566mhz celly+2x128 performance and current-wise? If it doesn't consume less power at idle, I'd be tempted to fetch a P3 ~700mhz for the job.
Also, proposals for other low-current solution with gigabit NIC for an affordable price (faster+more ram and sata II would be lovely) is most welcome.
Best regards
7eis
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http://www.x86-64.org/pipermail/patches/2007-April/003705.html
"The VIA C7 is a 686 (with TSC) that supports MMX, SSE and SSE2, it also has a cache line length of 64"
...which does not mean you won't run into (the usual) VIA problems (search here)
Go for a P3 1GHz up - used
Regards
Reinhold
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On an afterthought:
Better yet:
put your SME 7.2 on an Intel D201GLY mini-ITX
Seems close to what you seem to look for ;-)
... except 100Mbit - but your cpu future seems low-power anyway :D
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d201gly/
Regards
Reinhold
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...which does not mean you won't run into (the usual) VIA problems (search here)
Thanks for your answer.
So what is the usual problems? The threads (and bugs) i found regarding VIA embedded machine trouble were all either old (SME <7.0) or solved by (yum/cd-feeded) kernel updates.
Personally I wouldn't go for a VIA embedded solution because of the following: upgrading vital hardware is like mac - throw it out and get a more recent product.
I like tinkering - gives a certain degree of freedom (and much easier upgrades - less moving files and fiddling with software and databases and more time for fun 8-)).
Offhand I would pick the new 420 celly (1.6GHz), but in the end its not my decision - I'll keep the project on-hold till I know more about 'the VIA problems' and having the opportunity to measure how much current a slightly larger system draws idle. This cpu would improve backup-speed significantly and the power-saving technologies provided by the new platform does very well in my workstation so I am exited to see how the 430 does in a budget media-pc I'll be assembling in the near future.
Also, I am aware that its not only the CPU that madders, so I'll try to keep it simple (I.E. large DDIMs instead of more, efficient power supply - you name it).
Basically I'm very interested in those "VIA problems"problems and some documentation/links would be nice too.
So.. we are almost off topic now :shock: :P
Cheers
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We just recieved the 1½GHz Via C7 board and wow its small :o
Decided to give it a go with the latest SME Server 8.0 Alpha. If it wont work it will most likely end up as a HTPC :cool:
I'll return when I had the chance to test it - there is no ps2 connectors and our adapter isn't really compatible with any pre-kernel startup tasks.
I will possibly add a bug so I can run some tests for the developers if wanted.
Regards
7eis
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7eis,
I don't want to look prejudiced... :grin:
That cpu has "history" or "lineage" a bit outside of the mainstream...
and for the chipset ...sure "after a while" "most" VIA stuff will work with linux
(unlike SIS - to be even more "non prejudiced" :lol: :shock:
In summary: If you like to tinker (like me) and if you can tinker with this one
...there is no serious hindrance here...
It seems your case is very much unlike:
"Failure Is Not an Option: - Mission Control from Mercury to Apollo 13 and Beyond -"
Gene Kranz
Enjoy
Regards
Reinhold
P.S.: That one however will not end up as HTPC ...
too underpowered for anything above xvid/divx :D
VIA GHz aren't ;-(
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7eis,
I don't want to look prejudiced... :grin:
That CPU has "history" or "lineage" a bit outside of the mainstream...
and for the chipset ...sure "after a while" "most" VIA stuff will work with Linux
(unlike SIS - to be even more "non prejudiced" :lol: :shock:
In summary: If you like to tinker (like me) and if you can tinker with this one
...there is no serious hindrance here...
It seems your case is very much unlike:
"Failure Is Not an Option: - Mission Control from Mercury to Apollo 13 and Beyond -"
Gene Kranz
Enjoy
Regards
Reinhold
P.S.: That one however will not end up as HTPC ...
too underpowered for anything above xvid/divx :D
VIA GHz aren't ;-(
Hi Reinhold,
As said I'll give it a shot. Regarding how it would do as a HTPC there should be no performance problems when the tuner card has a hardware encoder. Also the VIA card has a on board decoder - but even if there is no support for whatever software I end up with (most likely a minimal Debian with mythtv front+backend) it should be able to play both DVD, DVB-T, analogue, FM, DAB etc. while recording from a 2nd tuner. Also.. I'm a hardware tinker - I never really needed any knowledge in compiling kernels or fully understand the template-system, and I really can't be bothered :? There is always sending back the board (can be done within 14days when ordered over the internet :cool:). 4 minuts battery left but this is roughly my thoughts about the issue:-)
Regards
7eis
EDIT: I installed 7.2 and updated without problems. Sadly I can't upgrade to 8.0 pre-alpha due to this bug http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3621
I decided to installed CentOS 5.0 and everything installed and runs like a bliss.