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Title: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: rkosiorek on April 03, 2008, 07:58:53 PM
i have a group of students who each have their own account and and can access their home directory through SMB.

i also have instructors who need access to all of the students home directories.

can this be setup using permissions? is there another method or different kind of account that allows this?

using single syllable words and instructions (I'm new to Linux) how can i do this?
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: raem on April 04, 2008, 07:52:50 AM
rkosiorek

Did you ever think to look at the various Howtos before asking ?

http://wiki.contribs.org/User_homes_admin_access
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: rkosiorek on April 04, 2008, 11:41:15 AM
Actually i did look. but for some reason  did not see it.

thanks.

rick

I guess from the sarcasm of the reply your are either justifiably tired of answering an often repeated question or you just had a really bad day.
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: Stefano on April 04, 2008, 12:33:15 PM
I guess from the sarcasm of the reply your are either justifiably tired of answering an often repeated question

your guess is right..

IMO 95% of questions are already answered here on the forums or by the howtos and FAQ..

but, that is, people simply keep coming here and asking.. :-)

Ciao
Stefano
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: raem on April 04, 2008, 01:09:00 PM
rkosiorek

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I guess from the sarcasm of the reply your are either justifiably tired of answering an often repeated question or you just had a really bad day.

Sarcasm is in the eye of the reader.
I asked a simple question that you decided to interpret as being sarcastic, that's your mindset not mine.

It is indeed a fact that many questions are answered already in the wiki, and had you done a proper search or read thoroughly, you would have found it. I was simply pointing that out to you for next time.

I in fact had a great day, I just got a new Core 2 Duo server with 3x500Gb drives and 2Gb RAM, and I created a nice website in Joomla too.
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: grattman on April 04, 2008, 07:27:32 PM
New toys always makes for a good day right Ray?
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: electroman00 on April 05, 2008, 01:06:11 AM
It would be interesting to have a poll that asks

1) which is the best way to post in a forum.

2) which is more likely to be perceived as sarcastic, sardonic


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Did you ever think to look at the various Howtos before asking ?

http://wiki.contribs.org/User_homes_admin_access

2
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You may have missed this in your search of the Howtos, see if this is the solution your looking for

http://wiki.contribs.org/User_homes_admin_access

3
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http://wiki.contribs.org/User_homes_admin_access


Select the right one you get the right results.

Select the wrong one you get the wrong results.

Life is that simple....

Reasons or Results

Reasons don't count....

When someone makes the wrong choice, they sometimes resort to blaming others
and by the that method they give up their power to change.

Have a good day....

Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: raem on April 05, 2008, 07:50:03 AM
electroman00

You obviously just made the wrong choice by criticising me yet again, what are you going to do next, threaten to sue me for answering posts ! Grow up.
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: cactus on April 05, 2008, 01:52:35 PM
It would be interesting to have a poll that asks

1) which is the best way to post in a forum.
We don't need a poll for that, common sense and politeness should do! Ray is a well valued member on this forum and has helped a lot of people with pointers and instructions. Try not to shoot yourself in the foot by starting religious wars on interpretation or the tone of a message, just try and consider posts as being advice in the most positive way you can.

Now back to the topic of this thread please.
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: Normando on April 05, 2008, 03:47:15 PM
We don't need a poll for that, common sense and politeness should do! Ray is a well valued member on this forum and has helped a lot of people with pointers and instructions. Try not to shoot yourself in the foot by starting religious wars on interpretation or the tone of a message, just try and consider posts as being advice in the most positive way you can.

Now back to the topic of this thread please.

I agree with Cactus.
IMO the people no make the minimal effort for search a solution, and simple hit the click and post a new topic. WE made a lot of efforts to produce and create a good source of information like wiki, so why the people can't search?

I have a lema for those persons... "Think before click" or Search before click.
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: rkosiorek on April 05, 2008, 05:21:54 PM
I agree with Cactus.
IMO the people no make the minimal effort for search a solution, and simple hit the click and post a new topic. WE made a lot of efforts to produce and create a good source of information like wiki, so why the people can't search?

I have a lema for those persons... "Think before click" or Search before click.

And who is making assumptions now?

And people do make honest mistakes. What is obvious to someone who lives and breathes on a forum, may not be so obvious to someone who is new. Unlike you I have not had the time to memorize the entire site yet.

by the way as a moderator should you not chastise yourself, call this thread "off topic" and close it by now?


Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: raem on April 05, 2008, 11:07:23 PM
rkosiorek

I believe my coments are "on topic", so I'm going to reply. The tendency to say very little in your first post post and then chastise in later posts, is becoming somewhat common around here. If you ask questions in the "tone" of a rank beginner, then expect to be answered in that "tone", and please don't feel offended when the answer is below your actual level of knowledge. We have no way of knowing your knowledge level, other than what you say in your first post.

The reality here is that in your first post you did not advise that you had done any searching and that you could not find anything.

What you actually first posted was a plea from someone who sounded like they were a rank beginner, and someone who needed it all spelt out in simple step by step commands...
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...is there another method or different kind of account that allows this?... using single syllable words and instructions (I'm new to Linux) how can i do this?...

So based on that scenario as presented by you, I felt it was appropriate to point out a common method of finding lots of answers on this wiki, which was to look at the Howtos.

You only advised that you had already searched in your second post, when you also accused me of being sarcastic.


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And who is making assumptions now?....
What is obvious to someone who lives and breathes on a forum, may not be so obvious to someone who is new.

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I guess from the sarcasm of the reply your are either justifiably tired of answering an often repeated question or you just had a really bad day.

So you don't like someone to make assumptions back at you, but you are happy to start making assumptions in the first place. A bit one sided don't you think ?


I don't understand why people get even slightly annoyed with someone who provides any answer for them ?
After all you did ask and I'm sure you were expecting an answer.
I don't get paid to answer you and you offend me back by criticising the style in which I answer.
I'm asking you to "grow up" too, and be a little more appreciative and thankful that somone you don't even know bothered to answer the question of a perfect stranger, and I'd ask everyone else who posts questions on this forum to also consider that.
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: rkosiorek on April 06, 2008, 01:02:09 AM
if your first post had been phrased or positioned more like your last i would not have made any comment at all.

i was even willing to forget all about it. but the posts just kept on droning on and on.

the defensive tone of your last post does bring to mind the recent case of Hillary Clinton'S sniper comment and its aftermath though.
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: raem on April 06, 2008, 01:23:40 AM
Some people just don't get it.
I think Ego gets in the way.
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: electroman00 on April 06, 2008, 02:03:46 PM
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Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: cactus on April 06, 2008, 02:08:34 PM
I suggest closing this thread as the topic reads: "Super User account? Permissions Problem" and not something like "Super User account? Interpretation Problem" ;-)
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: electroman00 on April 06, 2008, 03:38:51 PM
Yea agree lock it...it's way off topic....

It went off topic when it evolved into sarcasm and toys....
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: grattman on April 06, 2008, 03:53:09 PM
I agree that it should have closed well before my comment electroman00:

I was trying to lighten it up, yet sure as %$##, you throw another barb regarding my comment to Ray regarding his new server. I watched this topic all the way through, and I have to admit, there is some pompous attitude from the experts in the group that have appeared over the 3+ years I have been a member of the community.

I truly respect some of the members, such as Ray. Over the years his comments have been quite helpful, and sometimes a bit harsh, but I understood his point and took the feedback as a mentor to a student. That being said, I think the community including experts/developer/moderators needs to take a step back and think before posting. While most of the time the posts may not come of as "barbed," please remember that there is no tonation in forums (other than  :) :( :x ). So the casual user may see some of these posts/comments as rude.

Just my $0.02 worth before it closes.

grattman
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: electroman00 on April 06, 2008, 04:18:55 PM
grattman

I understand what your saying and what you were trying to do, I don't know about you but my efforts were a waste of time.

I see no reason to support this in anyway shape or form.

I will no long support this project financially or any other way.

I have already investigated a better platform with better support and a much better group of moderators.

I had hopes for SME when Ruffdogs came along, however now seeing what has been happening around here
my conclusion is ....it's just not worth it anymore.

I find it impossible to support the concept of a newcomer being greeted in a piss poor manor...
JMHO

Reasons or Results

Reasons don't count...

Any reasonable person can see the results in this thread.

There's no reason or excuse for it.....none....period...end of story....!!!!

There's better out there....

Have a good day all....

 
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: raem on April 06, 2008, 04:43:09 PM
grattman

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please remember that there is no tonation in forums (other than  :) :( :x ). So the casual user may see some of these posts/comments as rude.

That's a contradiction. If there is no tonation in posts, then why are people interpreting posts as having tonation eg emotion/sarcasm or whatever it might be in each case.

I answered long ago that there was no sarcasm in my statement, and I believe as I'm the one who made the statement then I should know what I meant by it.
Everyone elses "version" of what I said is exactly that, it's their version, which as I have said earlier was not my mindset, it was their mindset.

Where do the likes of electroman00 & rkosiorek get the idea of saying they know what I said better than I know myself ???

As for electroman00 saying he's leaving, good riddance to a terribly critical person who did little more around here than whinge about things. I'd hate to be your wife !
Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: electroman00 on April 06, 2008, 04:49:12 PM
I would say you don't have a wife.

I've been married for 33 years my friend, longer then you....

The fact you would even bring my wife into this, just shows what kind of a low life you really are.

Title: Re: Super User account? Permissions Problem
Post by: grattman on April 06, 2008, 05:19:36 PM
That's a contradiction. If there is no tonation in posts, then why are people interpreting posts as having tonation eg emotion/sarcasm or whatever it might be in each case.

You are correct Ray...it was a clerical error on my part. It is impossible to read tone into a post, but is possible to misinterpret or percieve. This is most often the case I see, but sometimes, it is just plain obvious that someone is going out of their way to be a dink.

I do not share company with electroman00 & rkosiorek and also wish them farewell as seem to want to continually perpetuate what was interpreted by them in this post.