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Obsolete Releases => SME Server 7.x => Topic started by: josempinto on April 29, 2008, 06:37:18 PM
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Dar friends,
Since an update to SME SERVER, (yum update), where the version changed from “SME Server 7.2” to “SME Server 7.3” that I Cannot send e-mail’s with A small file attached With as small as (for instance) 33.664 KB.
How to solve this? Any suggestions?
And, Above all this, is that the control panel was not been updated with the options/settings to configure this. I have visited all the menus, and I cannot see where to set /change this well sheet of new and undocumented feature…???
I think I will have to STOP updating my SERVER!
What Hell it's going on the developments you (the development team) are doing?
Thank you in advance if anyone can help.
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Hi
Dar friends,
Since an update to SME SERVER, (yum update), where the version changed from “SME Server 7.2” to “SME Server 7.3” that I Cannot send e-mail’s with A small file attached With as small as (for instance) 33.664 KB.
if dot (.) is thousands separator, you are trying to send a mail with an attach of more than 32 MB.. I think it's not so small..
How to solve this? Any suggestions?
And, Above all this, is that the control panel was not been updated with the options/settings to configure this. I have visited all the menus, and I cannot see where to set /change this well sheet of new and undocumented feature…???
well.. first suggestion is to search here (the forums) and the wiki.. I'm sure you'll find many answers
hint: read this: http://wiki.contribs.org/Email (http://wiki.contribs.org/Email)
Remember that you can change via the web interface only a certain part of the settings.. many other must be configured on the shell via the "config" command
I think I will have to STOP updating my SERVER!
you can.. only remember that if it's exposed on internet it may be vulnerable.. you have not to update, you should do it
What well it’s gong on the developments you are doing?
I guess english is not you native language (mine is italian), so I don't understand your question.
BTW, I see this is your first post, so I'll be fine with you :-)
all the developers are working hard and almost for free.. so please don't bite the hand that feed you..
HTH
Ciao
Stefano
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Hi
if dot (.) is thousands separator, you are trying to send a mail with an attach of more than 32 MB.. I think it's not so small..
I am sorry for not agreeing with you. For my network users it’s small, and end of conversation. The simply want do send a file they crated on tier PCs using word or excel. DOT END.
And I have two alternatives, or I solve them their problems, or they send my server to a place they know but I don’t say (but as you are Italian, I think I have to give you a clue about that place: I inform you that there are (in that place) lots of Shit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shit))), stoop using the institutional e-mail and move do g-mail where they do not have this kind of problems.
I haven’t had time to test to exact value with witch the server starts giving errors, but the facts are that, as I said, and repeat again, before the update (yum update) I had my users working and happy, and now they cannot work and are complying.
well.. first suggestion is to search here (the forums) and the wiki.. I'm sure you'll find many answers
Good answer!!!!
I have consulted your profile, and what kind of answers you give people, and, more or les are all the same, tell people to read the docs, or ask for more information. I haven’t done this (Irony!!!!( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony)) I will do that.
hint: read this: http://wiki.contribs.org/Email (http://wiki.contribs.org/Email)
You have redirected me to read a file with hundreds, if not thousands of lines.
Can you please tell me the exact line, where is the solution for my problem? Thanks in advance!
An addition, this manual, was made for an older release of SME server (it is always the same), and, as I said, and repeat again, before the update (yum update) I had my users working and happy, and it is only now that they cannot work and are complying. I have NOT changed anything on the server.
Remember that you can change via the web interface only a certain part of the settings.. many other must be configured on the shell via the "config" command
I know that, and it’s why I e came to this place, as I couldn’t find any setting to do that, in the hope that someone tell me which command to run.
what are the “config” options I should type to solve this issue? Please!
you can.. only remember that if it's exposed on internet it may be vulnerable.. you have not to update, you should do it
I know that, and it’s why I am concerned about this subject, and came to this palce, but if the developments go on the wrong direction, I think I have to do something
I guess english is not you native language (mine is italian), so I don't understand your question.
You aren’t native English speaker, but I think you proficient in English, as you are doing spell check work…!!!!
I admit that, although I am using a spell checker, e make some mistakes, and later on when I revise what I have written, I find the mistakes I have done, but is the first time on a forum, that someone couldn’t understand what I mean, might because you are Italian, as the native English speakers, more fluent can in the middle of some mistakes, they can infer what I mean…
BTW, I see this is your first post, so I'll be fine with you :-)
Don’t profile people by their number of posts!!! You can get wrong conclusions!!!
Although it is my first post, I an not new to *nix, nor SME SERVER!. I Am using SME server for more than 2 years, When I came to this enterprise where I am now, I found some servers with release 6.X of SME server installed on them, and upgraded all of them. Maintained the server, support users, and so on. All by my self, reading what you said that I don’t read (the docs), and so on. So, conclusions (as you are Italian, I think I have to write the conclusions for you):
1-Firste Post, does not men new.
2-Fisrt post, does not men not having read the docs, and searched for the solution. Might it is the opposite – Have searched a lot!
ll the developers are working hard and almost for free.. so please don't bite the hand that feed you..
HTH
Ciao
Stefano
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How to solve this? Any suggestions?
Please report bugs and potential bugs in the bug tracker. Thanks.
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I am sorry for not agreeing with you. For my network users it’s small, and end of conversation. The simply want do send a file they crated on tier PCs using word or excel. DOT END.
And I have two alternatives, or I solve them their problems, or they send my server to a place they know but I don’t say (but as you are Italian, I think I have to give you a clue about that place: I inform you that there are (in that place) lots of Shit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shit))), stoop using the institutional e-mail and move do g-mail where they do not have this kind of problems.
Hi José
I´m from Brazil so if you like to talk in portuguese, write me to jader.marasca (it´s a gmail account). I bet you´re
About your doubt/problem: it´s ALMOST a standard in ISP (I work for one of biggest in Brazil) to accept messages only below 30MB. I don´t think any ISP will accept no limit messages. Here we´re using 25MB as limit. And remember this is the whole message size, not just attachment. You must remember your client will convert you attachment using some conversion and his size will grow up/shringk. To know what happens, do a test with a smaller message (2MB size for example!) sent to yourself and watch final message size.
Yes, you can configure your server to send even a 50MB message BUT I assure you: that will have A LOT OF PROBLEMs to be delivered.
Even if your server (origin) send the message to other server under your control (destination) you will have to configure both of them to accept bigger messages, and that´s not just size, it´s timeout too... a 50MB message (or a 33MB ) can take several minutes to be transfered even over a very fast link.
So if you have a SMTP timeout configurated (most of SMTPs have) your message will timeout before to be delivered AND your server will retry it endless.
So you´ll have a long queue messages (all other messages will wait for that one or your bandwith will be consumed by that thread of SMTP) and will have no garanties of message deliver, because it will depend of destination SMTP server. You can get yourself on a cat-rat game with some BIG messages being delivered and others no.
My suggestion: use your SME to create a public ibay, and put those attachments there, or use a virtual disk somewhere and share that files on VD.
Other option is enable FTP on your server (but that´s allways my LAST option).
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Please report bugs and potential bugs in the bug tracker. Thanks.
Do you think it is a bug?
Do you tink I should report this as a bug?
Regardas.
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all the developers are working hard and almost for free...
No, all the developers are unpaid (as far as I am aware).
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Hi josempinto. I find you quite aggressive both with developers and nenonamo, I'm not so sure why.
For the limitation of emails, it's 15MB by default. You can change this setting with
config setprop qmail MaxMessageSize 35000000
signal-event email-update
This will put the limit to 35M, but I think you have already seen it here http://wiki.contribs.org/Email#Set_max_email_size (http://wiki.contribs.org/Email#Set_max_email_size) as you've allready read the documentation.
If this does not solve your problem, then you should open a bug and post some logs about the error.
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Hi josempinto. I find you quite aggressive both with developers
For the limitation of emails, it's 15MB by default. You can change this setting with
config setprop qmail MaxMessageSize 35000000
signal-event email-update
I know that “I must, to” to You all, and specially the dev. team a word of tank-you about this wonderful piece of software (SME SERVER). I haven’t done this yet, because that word as to be sincere, and to do that, in that way, I must have time. And I to not have that now.
But I promise, that later on, I will do that, on the topic and on the others ones I am working now.
I think you hit the right point, I will test, and (I promise that) I will thank you, and post the results, whem I have time.
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No, all the developers are unpaid (as far as I am aware).
I know that “I must, to” to You all, and specially the dev. team a word of tank-you about this wonderful piece of software (SME SERVER). I haven’t done this yet, because that word as to be sincere, and to do that, in that way, I must have time. And I to not have that now.
But I promise, that later on, I will do that! I will do that, on this the topic, and some other topics I have opened and working now/wainting for replies... .