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Obsolete Releases => SME Server 7.x => Topic started by: purvis on June 05, 2008, 08:46:23 AM
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i want to set up more email accounts for the purpose of just email.
i do not want install accounts to my user base on the server.
what to do or maybe i need something else.
thanks
paul
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i want to set up more email accounts for the purpose of just email.
i do not want install accounts to my user base on the server.
what to do or maybe i need something else.
thanks
paul
No, you can not, SME Server is targeted to be a Small Enterprise Server, not to only provide e-mailaccounts. What is the problem with setting up the users on your system as they can e-mail that way and have some other functionality as well, like a home drive.
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cactus
i do use the sme server for many purposes, and now not for email at all right now.
i am going to have to setup a email server and it would of been nice if sme server would handle it.
i have several locations offsite and wanted sme server to be used as a email server because i am familiar with it.
i understand that the server depends on having a email server for many different chores, reporting is just one.
it would be easier for me to setup a email server at one location and have all email accounts at that one location.
one of the problems using the email server also is that you have to have administration rights to create users.
i do not want to give anybody the power to be an administrator of the systems
i am not an email expert of any kind, but you would think that there could just be a email manager.
i guess i will have to look else where or install something else, but that would probably not work well with a email server already installed.
paul
i am not looking to be some kind of global bigtime email server with boko accounts.
but i need more flexiblity on users accounts.
i also do not understand why i should have to set up a user to create a email account.
also what constitues small in the phrase small enterprise server
one of the problems is that in an enterprise, you need more email accounts for other purposes.
accounts for
fax recepition
webpage recepiton
departments reception
main company reception
account that sends out email
vip accounts
general reception
special accounts where they are used for commuication with affliates.
so it all adds up and managing it adds up as well
now mutiply that figure times 5 to 10 for different locations
so unless i miss something or other, i would have to create users for all these accounts.
that is probably not going to happen.
purvis
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purvis
sme is a mail server, as well as providing other services.
Other services can easily be disabled with commands.
I don't understand what your problem really is.
In what way is creating users on your sme server a problem ?
All users automatically have an email account.
With your "alternative" system, you would have to create an "email" user anyway, so how does creating a normal user really differ (time wise) from creating an email user only.
If you use Groups as intended, then the users will not have access to ibays, and in effect they will be email users only.
The user accounts can be configured to redirect email messages to other email addresses (eg external or internal addresses).
it would be easier for me to setup a email server at one location and have all email accounts at that one location.
This can be handled by the Delegate function where email for a certain domain (or domains) can be handled by another server or servers, see the Email FAQ
http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:FAQ#Internal_Mail_Servers
one of the problems using the email server also is that you have to have administration rights to create users. i do not want to give anybody the power to be an administrator of the systems
Install the user manager contrib and limit access to selected server manager panels only for selected "admin level" users, logging in with their own username and password.
yum install smeserver-userpanel --enablerepo=smecontribs
i also do not understand why i should have to set up a user to create a email account.
That's how the underlying Linux system works.
You can create Pseudonyms or Groups which automatically have a email address.
Pseudonyms allow domain specific email addresses, but these of course must forward to a local user account, which can then forward to external or internal addresses if required.
accounts for
fax recepition
webpage recepiton
departments reception
main company reception
account that sends out email
vip accounts
general reception
special accounts where they are used for commuication with affliates.
As mentioned you can create Pseudonyms or Groups, which forward to existing users.
If you think creating those users is too time consuming or difficult, then I can assure you that the email accounts are not going to magically create themselves without some user input.
I'm not really clear as to what your problem is with management and creating users, it's very easy to do and with the user panel contrib you can have sub administrators doing the work without needing to give then full admin level access. Make all resources belong to different Groups and you can limit what Users then have access too ie many users have access to nothing as they are NOT members of any group.
I suggest you read the manuals for more information.
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thanks Mary on taking time to provide that useful information.
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thanks Mary on taking time to provide that useful information.
Indeed Mary, great work. Could you please join the Documentation team, and please spend some time in the Bug Tracker, helping to ensure that bug reports are clear and well documented? Thanks.
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i can now better describe what i wanted
virtual users
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purvis
sme has virtual domains, but I have never heard of sme having virtual users.
I think what you are wanting is a secondary name set, which is distinct or seperate from the main name set, and which is maintained by a seperate administrator.
For that you will need to host only one domain on one sme server, and host other domains and user names on additional servers.
sme only supports one name set and one admin, so you cannot have what you are after, by default.
The closest to that would be pseudonyms, in the style of user@domain, but these still need user accounts to forward to.
see
http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:Administration_Manual:Chapter9#Pseudonyms
Practical usage guidlines
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sme has virtual domains, but I have never heard of sme having virtual users.
SME server does not have them.
purvis hasn't said why he/she wants virtual users (or doesn't want user accounts), but if purvis wants them, purvis can make whatever changes are necessary, or should use a different distribution.
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i can now better describe what i wanted
virtual users
No, SME server never had them and I don't think will have "virtual users" capability.
Maybe the closest approach is to create a web based mail application which does not create any account on SME base but use it own database to store accounts and mails.
But I dont know if it is possible.
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thomasch is right
for what purvis wants you would have to go to say centos but it is a bit more work to add an email only user
and as SME has all the email stuff already setup it is much easer to just add the users and with a standard linux server install you would have to setup say postfix from scratch configure postfix which takes time around a day to get it all working i know i do it all the time patch the OS setup webmail add the domains setup hosts file then iptables firewall apache mysql and so on
all this is already done in SME
so you are making more work for your self if you only want email only users and if you don't want users having access to anything use the SME template system to disable the user home directory but that is not always a good idea as SME uses maildir which means that all there mail is kept in there home directory
only the older email systems the used /var/mail or /var/spool/mail they were the only system that can use email accounts only
SME is easy and fast to setup nothing else on the market can beat it
if any of the dev's read this am i wrong about SME and maildir and also about /var/spool or /var/spool/mail and email only accounts