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Contribs.org Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: edb on January 17, 2009, 05:47:49 PM
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Does anyone know when SME 8 final will be released?
I'm needing to migrate to PHP 5 and MYSQL 5 soon which are standard in SME 8 but I'm reluctant to do so until it has reached the final release stage.
Is there some sort of expected time frame that the dev's have for the final production version of SME 8?
Thanks
edb
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@edb
you are a forum's poster since 2004... you should know that there's no release schedule.. SME 8 will be released when ready.. :-)
Ciao
Stefano
p.s. BTW, there are many post with the same question and, of course, the same answer ;-)
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And for any SME Server release we need (a lot of) beta testers...
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I guess I was just wondering if the final release was imminent or a case of much more work needing to be done which would then mean that it could be several more months before a final release.
I understand there being no schedule.
Guess I'll just wait and see ... and leave it to the powers that be.
Thanks
edb
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I have been running SME 8 on vmware with no issues. But I have done little testing since I need some contribs. So I can't test until we go to RC1.
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I'm needing to migrate to PHP 5 and MYSQL 5 soon which are standard in SME 8 but I'm reluctant to do so until it has reached the final release stage.
I had similar requirements but chose to leverage the vmware how-to and have set up my dependent applications in a virtual machine. I first considered this a work-around but now it is part of my deployment strategy.
We often have a tendency to force apps onto SME to consolidate machines but some of these apps really don't care where they are and use of a VM gives you significant flexibility.
Christian
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Thanks Christian!
That may be something I will have to look at doing as well and I will likely do so, since it looks like SME 8 final will be a while in coming.
Best ragards
Ed
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I had similar requirements but chose to leverage the vmware how-to and have set up my dependent applications in a virtual machine. I first considered this a work-around but now it is part of my deployment strategy.
We often have a tendency to force apps onto SME to consolidate machines but some of these apps really don't care where they are and use of a VM gives you significant flexibility.
Christian
If i wantet to do the VMware trick and have a webpage there i want to be able to see from the internet, how would it be possible to have an adress that jumped to that page on the VM? Any hints/ideas?
Per
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If i wantet to do the VMware trick and have a webpage there i want to be able to see from the internet, how would it be possible to have an adress that jumped to that page on the VM? Any hints/ideas?
Per
If it is a webpage for a certain domain you could use proxypass: http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:FAQ#Proxy_Pass
Next time please do not hijack topics. First of all this is not your topic, second of all the topic does not cover your question. Please read this page in the wiki: http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Community:Forum
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Does anyone know when SME 8 final will be released?
I'm needing to migrate to PHP 5 and MYSQL 5 soon which are standard in SME 8 but I'm reluctant to do so until it has reached the final release stage.
Is there some sort of expected time frame that the dev's have for the final production version of SME 8?
edb
SME 8 beta isn't on a specific time frame that I'm aware of. It is actively under development.
However, if all you are wanting is php5 and mysql 5 on SME 7.4, then you can do so as Centos now provides these packages in the centosplus repositories for centos 4.7. http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/centos/4.7/centosplus/i386/RPMS/
I have been using the php5 builds from these repos on my production machines for a few months now with no issue what so ever.
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However, if all you are wanting is php5 and mysql 5 on SME 7.4, then you can do so as Centos now provides these packages in the centosplus repositories for centos 4.7. http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/centos/4.7/centosplus/i386/RPMS/
But please remember this is not supported by SME Server 7.x
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But please remember this is not supported by SME Server 7.x
Granted, but they are provided, supported and tested by Centos. If person REALLY needs php5/mysql5, then these packages are a pretty safe bet. As byte points out, do so at your own risk.
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Next time please do not hijack topics. First of all this is not your topic, second of all the topic does not cover your question. Please read this page in the wiki: http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Community:Forum
Sorry... And thank you for pointing me in the right direction(s)
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Granted, but they are provided, supported and tested by Centos. If person REALLY needs php5/mysql5, then these packages are a pretty safe bet. As byte points out, do so at your own risk.
Based on the number of people of who had issues upgrading to 7.4 due to independent upgrades of these core packages, I would only recommend it to people who truly understand what they are doing.
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Based on the number of people of who had issues upgrading to 7.4 due to independent upgrades of these core packages, I would only recommend it to people who truly understand what they are doing.
I believe these issues were related to installing non-centos produced rpms, not rpms released BY centos. I agree with you that there are howtos out there for installing php5 on SME that could cause upgrade issues.
However, the packages contained in centosplus are built to respect the core release and are updated within 72 hours of a core release: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/centosplus/Readme.txt
SME 7.x updates should not have an issue with centosplus packages as any new centos released packages, which SME is based on, will respect the dependencies of the centosplus packages and visa-versa.
While centosplus packages are not officially supported by SME, I feel that the php and mysql updates can be made with very little risk to the end user.
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Thank you very much for your input gzartman!
I will have a look at installing those rpms and maybe try it on a VM install first to see how things work and if they work without breaking webmail.
Sure appreciate all the input on this thread and thank all those who took the time to reply.
edb
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I believe these issues were related to installing non-centos produced rpms, not rpms released BY centos. I agree with you that there are howtos out there for installing php5 on SME that could cause upgrade issues.
However, the packages contained in centosplus are built to respect the core release and are updated within 72 hours of a core release: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/centosplus/Readme.txt
SME 7.x updates should not have an issue with centosplus packages as any new centos released packages, which SME is based on, will respect the dependencies of the centosplus packages and visa-versa.
While centosplus packages are not officially supported by SME, I feel that the php and mysql updates can be made with very little risk to the end user.
I agree with you.. you should open a NFR in bugzilla..
AFAIK only 2 rpms have problems:
- smeserver-support
- e-smith-horde
but I think this should discussed in bugzilla and/or in dev mailing-list
my 2c
ciao
Stefano
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I have finally run into software that I need that *requires* at least kernel 2.6.13. SME 7.4 is at 2.6.9. I checked Bug 3640 on Bugzilla and there is only one dependency still listed for SME 8.0. What can I do to help to move SME 8 to RC status?
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I have finally run into software that I need that *requires* at least kernel 2.6.13.
Really? What is it? Perhaps they are mistaken.
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Really? What is it? Perhaps they are mistaken.
fsniper (http://projects.l3ib.org/trac/fsniper) or similar, such as gamin (http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/). I was looking for utilities which support the inotify() system call. dnotify() won't work for me because I would most likely run into the per-process descriptor limit.
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Meanwhile SME8 is beta you can install CentOS 5.2 and play with fsniper. I was do the same, because I need the same of you: inotify
May be is time to put our hands over SME 8 and help developers to finish. I will do it the next week.
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I may have a show stopper .... When I degrade the RAID array on SME 8 b3 with all the updates running on a virtual machine it will not boot.
I have opened a bug report http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5070 (http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5070).
If any can confirm this please add it to the bug report.
Kevin