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Title: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: cybermod on December 11, 2013, 06:01:43 PM
hi all

i have installed sme8+sogo (based 64bit) and i try to connect with outlook professional 32bit, with exchange tipe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyECXtXaXx0&ytsession=2QPJF9XtxTL6O0tayQwCL_lYztE9oJNsMUoyKjFBduPNQQVSKzNN0Mgsuw4l4O_3mTmO-yI2N6qzoG5bBi8iCfbLGXkIFcunCmvHmlEI28PkDZYFRNrZUKyr7G_6vIxcgyynRJDFyAa7pFAmbDoi3Jht0b6vUUT1CbvvqUYR9yZPMwkpCHDvoox85Hov7CvZTeNQ2BHehvBBg8tfNSLmTN7SuQe6vqg8qDSt0-PWWqMHRkjigLvbkM18U4Py1Ig0Q15scfT9RuLDx9HSso1XLHu2gVQT-UBthjhfsfpum53CCFBfCq_2Tm3J0qyr7dhSdnE8M9tftkAVtftszHYK6gDvEy4RGRKZ0TzvYzGciUwjO5TTxNJNebbn47JqBsQfWcCRIdY2phrwu7gUNQwvwVBY1wX5xEoLtDA_CGREKHststI5gTYb2n6XUs4nzhbWWcQPf4TYRxV5qZtnInKxWRES0ZxuMeba2KooeXf_dqfujuwDDIABjQns5FGfi3C8TaTFk3DgieXhazfno0Z1wYYxHs0s9xpko01yQgd2DlqHHxNGoed_UCyRTSNe2RUdp4qIo7WuShA8n2Dleya_qfLdanVYxVskI4OA9X6TapaVFZWLor3DHkFED1SuPlZPG2kWAw0eKSsbaL6RV9twoM8ddg-FUd2s5CLpDhnLFNg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyECXtXaXx0&ytsession=2QPJF9XtxTL6O0tayQwCL_lYztE9oJNsMUoyKjFBduPNQQVSKzNN0Mgsuw4l4O_3mTmO-yI2N6qzoG5bBi8iCfbLGXkIFcunCmvHmlEI28PkDZYFRNrZUKyr7G_6vIxcgyynRJDFyAa7pFAmbDoi3Jht0b6vUUT1CbvvqUYR9yZPMwkpCHDvoox85Hov7CvZTeNQ2BHehvBBg8tfNSLmTN7SuQe6vqg8qDSt0-PWWqMHRkjigLvbkM18U4Py1Ig0Q15scfT9RuLDx9HSso1XLHu2gVQT-UBthjhfsfpum53CCFBfCq_2Tm3J0qyr7dhSdnE8M9tftkAVtftszHYK6gDvEy4RGRKZ0TzvYzGciUwjO5TTxNJNebbn47JqBsQfWcCRIdY2phrwu7gUNQwvwVBY1wX5xEoLtDA_CGREKHststI5gTYb2n6XUs4nzhbWWcQPf4TYRxV5qZtnInKxWRES0ZxuMeba2KooeXf_dqfujuwDDIABjQns5FGfi3C8TaTFk3DgieXhazfno0Z1wYYxHs0s9xpko01yQgd2DlqHHxNGoed_UCyRTSNe2RUdp4qIo7WuShA8n2Dleya_qfLdanVYxVskI4OA9X6TapaVFZWLor3DHkFED1SuPlZPG2kWAw0eKSsbaL6RV9twoM8ddg-FUd2s5CLpDhnLFNg) but it not run.
Outlook say me: "impossible to determine the name server or name mailbox".

On sogo on-page i see whis:
Quote
SOGo offers native Microsoft Outlook compatibility using the OpenChange [External] backend developed by Inverse [External]. This means Microsoft Outlook 2003, 2007 and 2010 can talk directly to SOGo — just like if it was a Microsoft Exchange server. No plugins are required in Outlook to make this work.

some suggestions?
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: Daniel B. on December 11, 2013, 06:41:44 PM
Native Outlook connectivity in SOGo requires samba4, which is not available (at least easily) on SME Server. IMHO, SOGo is a great software (I use it a lot), but the native Outlook connectivity is still alpha/beta and shouldn't be used in production yet anyway (read the limitations in their documentation)
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: cybermod on December 11, 2013, 07:39:14 PM
hi daniel, tnx for your reply

so, the problem is that sme+sogo+ samba4 is very hard, otherwise sogo+samba4 (without sme) is a good situation for outlook?

another question: funambol, is not an applicable solution? (workaround)
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: Daniel B. on December 11, 2013, 07:42:40 PM
Samba4 on SME is a huge task. But, even without considering SME (just SOGo + samba4) I personaly think native outlook connector in SOGo is not mature enough to be used in production.
I don't know for Funambol (Funambol connector on SOGo is working for BlackBerry devices, but I never tried with Outlook).

I know it's not possible everywhere, but you should give Thunderbird a try. With the various extensions (sogo-connector, sogo-integrator, lightning), it's really a great exchange+outlook alternative
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: cybermod on December 13, 2013, 12:09:09 PM
ok, i understand

but: can i use outlook professional 2010 with imap account, and them can i use "shared calendar function"?

It's very important.

However, i am thinking to migrate all my users to use thunderbird :D
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: Daniel B. on December 13, 2013, 12:16:35 PM
but: can i use outlook professional 2010 with imap account, and them can i use "shared calendar function"?
Not sur how to use the Shared Calendar feature on SOGo with Outlook as client. But IMAP will work (well, if we considere Outlook to be "working")

However, i am thinking to migrate all my users to use thunderbird :D
If you can migrate all your users to Thunderbird, you'll be able to use shared calendar (and addressbook)
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: cybermod on December 13, 2013, 01:30:29 PM
ok

how about you of zafara with sme8?
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: fpausp on March 27, 2014, 09:56:48 PM
I have SOGo 2.2.2 running on my sme8 64 bit Server, I would like to know if the outlook 2010 client is supportet and fully working now before I buy this ms-software... ?



Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: nicolatiana on March 28, 2014, 12:01:42 AM
1) SOGO natively supports CardDav, CalDav and now ActiveSync (still on-going and not completely refined).
2) SOGO + OpenChange + SAMBA4 gives a full "emulation" of an Exchange server (never tried but I suppose working).
3) Every Mail Client with IMAP capabilities can work with Sme Mail services without any contrib; Outlook at least until 2010 was not very fine in this (at least on my opinion).

You can try to connect Outlook with ActiveSync (I suppose this is working only on Outlook 2013) but I strongly suggest the use of Thunderbird with Inverse plugins (SOGo Connector and Integrator).
TB is free and fine and almost everything you can do with Outlook can be done in Tb with the added-value of several TB plugins-extension that help you to improve-extend the software capabilities.

Nicola
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: fpausp on March 28, 2014, 06:06:56 AM
OK, thank you nicolatiana for your summery...

ciao
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: frifri on March 28, 2014, 08:12:37 AM
Hi,

Did somebody tried zentyal 3.4 ? (http://www.zentyal.org/2014/03/zentyal-announces-zentyal-server-3-4-a-new-linux-small-business-server-release/)
It has native MAPI-support (Samba4 + SOGO + OpenExchange).

Does it have limitations ?

F.
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: fpausp on March 28, 2014, 09:02:11 AM

@ nicolatiana
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I strongly suggest the use of Thunderbird with Inverse plugins (SOGo Connector and Integrator).
TB is free and fine and almost everything you can do with Outlook can be done in Tb with the added-value of several TB plugins-extension that help you to improve-extend the software capabilities.

There is also the possibility to use only the Browser (sme8 + firefox), with this method is there any restriction in functionality ?
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: nicolatiana on March 28, 2014, 10:07:57 AM
No, not real limitations in calendar and addressbook; something missing in rules, filtering ecc. in the mail. More or less the same differences that you notice between Outlook and his counterpart Web on Exchange or in Groupwise where the "heavy" client has full functionality. Usually I find a lot of "resistence" in users . . . .

Nicola
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: Stefano on March 28, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Hi,

Did somebody tried zentyal 3.4 ? (http://www.zentyal.org/2014/03/zentyal-announces-zentyal-server-3-4-a-new-linux-small-business-server-release/)
It has native MAPI-support (Samba4 + SOGO + OpenExchange).

Does it have limitations ?

F.

this should be asked elsewhere, shouldn't?
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: nicolatiana on March 28, 2014, 10:11:24 AM
frifri

This is the SME  forum: we're not the best people to give help about a competitor software. Don't you think so ?  :roll:

Nicola
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: fpausp on March 28, 2014, 10:35:58 AM
@ Stefano
YES.

@ nicolatiana
I am not sure if it is possible to have more than one mailaccount under the webmail-window ?

Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: nicolatiana on March 28, 2014, 10:40:18 AM
Yes, you can insert multiple account. The Ajax interface acts exactly as an IMAP client, so in mail configuration tab You can further accounts like you do in TB.

Try it

Nicola
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: frifri on March 28, 2014, 11:29:17 AM
Hi,

I wasn't asking for zentyal-use but for the limitations of an implementation of SAMBA4+SOGO+Openchange.
Goupware-choice is still on the wishlist : http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server_wishlist
Why should i ask it elsewhere if SME-community didn't made a choice yet and sharing experiences could help the discussion ?
Advertising zentyal wasn't my goal, and i hope we can have an open mind on mentioning other distributions if its about the implementation of the software they use ! 

F.
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: Stefano on March 28, 2014, 11:42:47 AM
frifri..

SAMBA4+SOGO+Openchange is not yet production ready AFAIK..

you should search SOGo's ML to find the limitations and issues

no one here AFAIK is using such a solution

I would add that your question is exposed in a bad way: re reading it, I still understand you are asking for info on zentyal, not on SAMBA4+SOGO+Openchange ;-)
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: frifri on March 28, 2014, 12:26:07 PM
@Stefano,

Thanks for your opinion about the maturity of SAMBA4+SOGO+Openchange.

I sure wasn't asking for limitations of zentyal in a smeforum !  :-)

F.
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: fpausp on March 28, 2014, 03:02:46 PM
@ nicolatiana
Yes very easy, thank you ...
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: jameswilson on March 28, 2014, 11:42:35 PM
im testing sogo and sme. Ive decided to go the thunderbird route but would prefer outlook. But there are issues with activesync. It sort of works with an old android device I have (htc legend) but will not work with my Lumia 920 or my surface. once sogo sort these issues I can drop my exchange 2003 server.
Title: Re: sme8+sogo and outlook professional 2010 exchange account not run
Post by: Stefano on March 28, 2014, 11:51:12 PM
but would prefer outlook

use the force, Luke (Cit.)