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SME (e-smith) Server for home use

smallstool

SME (e-smith) Server for home use
« on: January 21, 2005, 03:02:25 PM »
I have just been treated by the wife to a Sereniti-2000 enclosure plus EPIA-M10000 for my birthday and would like to put it to use as a central file server for the whole family to use.

Questions are:

Is SME (e-smith) Server the best to use? (I like the fact that I can hide the box away and control from any other machine).

I already have a similar box running smoothwall for my firewall (I will keep this as it is).

Intend to buy 2 x Seagate 160gb drives and use RAID 1 support - any other suggestions?

Would I get much benefit in using 512mb over 256mb RAM?

My daughters PC runs XP home - is there an easy way for her to join the servers domain?

Just starting to get to grips with basic Linux (playing with mdrake 10.1 and suse 9.2) but cant see an easy way for me to use these like e-smith.

Many thanks for reading

Smallstool :-D

Offline markehle

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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2005, 04:15:36 PM »
SME IS PERFECT for this situation!

I have been using SME on a Compaq Proliant 1600 home for about a year now, and besides the high electric cost of running the thing, I am really happy!

Using an ITX-based machine with SME would make the perfect home server. Go for more ram, it never hurts!

However, for learning Linux itself, get a spare box and load a stock distro of you choice (mine's Fedora) and play with it - too much playing with SME and you can break it without knowing why. Looks like from your post that you might be already heading in that direction. If you are using SME for email/web serving, you do not want to break it if other people (in your house or out) are relying on it.

Have fun!

Mark

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SME is nice
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2005, 04:31:58 PM »
I have only been using SME for a short time but have benefited great from it...

Not only can you use it for a file server, it's an out of the box web and email server.

512mb of ram shouldn't be needed if you're not running a  web or email server, but hey overkill never hurts.

You can specifiy SME to be a domain controller, so you will have to change XP over to the domain which is very easy.

If you'd like to have content filtering and etc, visit here. I use their suite of software and set pam_auth (makes users login after opening browse) and I am able to monitor what they go to, and limit their access. Best yet, the entier suite of software is only $100. Visit Here.
http://www.dungog.net/sme/index.php
Trey - Network Specialist......

whistleruk

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2005, 07:49:04 PM »
I agree, been using SME server 6 with no problems as a home Gateway/Mail/VPN Server for nearly a year.
XP Home does not support Domain Logins or Duel CPUS (others with I can't remember) but I don't think that will cause problems in the home environment as you not using multi machines.

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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2005, 08:12:44 PM »
Quote from: "whistleruk"
I agree, been using SME server 6 with no problems as a home Gateway/Mail/VPN Server for nearly a year.
XP Home does not support Domain Logins or Duel CPUS (others with I can't remember) but I don't think that will cause problems in the home environment as you not using multi machines.


I forgot about xp home not having that feature, or several others offered by pro
Trey - Network Specialist......

djhomeless

Re: SME (e-smith) Server for home use
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2005, 09:06:43 AM »
Quote from: "smallstool"
I have just been treated by the wife to a Sereniti-2000 enclosure plus EPIA-M10000 for my birthday


Too spooky, my wife treated me to an Epia ME6000 before Christmas!

I think the kit you have would be perfect for a home file/web server. I currently have a co-located server that I'm paying £30 ($55) a month for. As I'm also new to Linux I've taken the slow route to migrate my various domains onto the box.

You'll love the stability and ease of use of SME. Also, the comminity is very very strong! Since firing up my box I've added a lot of contribs, and followed many howto's to 'improve' the system. None of that would have been possible without the community.

Just take your time getting things running!

Geoffrey

drywalldude

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2005, 08:28:04 PM »
Here is a screen shot of what you are wanting to do except with ipcop

http://ericswww.com/rpm_bay/sme_remote_view.JPG  8-)

smallstool

SME (e-smith) Server for home use
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2005, 11:02:07 AM »
Many thanks for your help and comments.

I built my mini-itx box yetserday and installed 2 h/drives and 512mb.

I am busy transfering files for the 5 users at the moment, the email and web server looks great but will try and getting it running 100% as file server and domain controller first.

Interestingly I downloaded 6.5 beta to try and installed it one 2 machines, and got the same problems on both:

The index bar down the left side (Users,Groups,Quotas etc) showed up and then another lot the same appeared in the main window.

Clicking on Users I was able to access the next screen (very slow), but was unable to access anything else.

I have gone with 6.01 and it seems great.

Thanks again and have one on me  :pint:


Smallstool

laurie_lewis

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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2005, 12:50:01 AM »
I did read somewhere on a hack so that xp home can log onto a domain.  Google away and it may appear.

laurie_lewis

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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2005, 12:53:39 AM »
Would love to know how the M1000 goes as a server as I am looking at ditching my big old server and seeing how something smaller goes.  I also have 5 users at home.

Can you notice the difference that raid 1 is making on your hard drives?  Is it taking a lot of grunt out of the M1000 to run it?

Any other feedback appreciated.

Thanks

Laurie

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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2005, 06:26:50 PM »
You may wish to look at this topic and report the issue you had with the 6.5 update there:
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php?topic=25667.0
I've been using SME 6.01 at home for close to a year now and I love it. I would take the suggestion to have another box to test stuff on very seriously. You can easily break stuff without knowing why. I use a "doorstop" class PII 350 w/ 128 MB to test stuff before moving it to the production box.

Good Luck

Quote from: "smallstool"
Many thanks for your help and comments.

I built my mini-itx box yetserday and installed 2 h/drives and 512mb.

I am busy transfering files for the 5 users at the moment, the email and web server looks great but will try and getting it running 100% as file server and domain controller first.

Interestingly I downloaded 6.5 beta to try and installed it one 2 machines, and got the same problems on both:

The index bar down the left side (Users,Groups,Quotas etc) showed up and then another lot the same appeared in the main window.

Clicking on Users I was able to access the next screen (very slow), but was unable to access anything else.

I have gone with 6.01 and it seems great.

Thanks again and have one on me  :pint:


Smallstool
Tampa, FL USA

harkon

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2005, 07:19:12 PM »
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I did read somewhere on a hack so that xp home can log onto a domain. Google away and it may appear.


For what its worth, there is no way to make XP Home log into an NT Domain. It can't ever become a domain member. The best you can do is workgroup access, you still need to authenticate the user, but you aren't really a domain member. The hacks referred to here simply make a workgroup login look like a domain login, just smoke and mirrors.

If all your daughter needs is file and printer access, then a workgroup login will suffice, she really doens't need to become a member of the domain. FWIW, I have several systems in the office running XP Home, accessing SME server and Win2K Server without incident.

Isn't Windows fun? ;)

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Using 6.5 BETA
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2005, 11:32:56 PM »
Just to echo. You are asking for trouble using 6.5 beta in your production or home environment. Use 6.01 with all the patches.It is the most stable at the moment.

Quote from: "smallstool"
Many thanks for your help and comments.

I built my mini-itx box yetserday and installed 2 h/drives and 512mb.

I am busy transfering files for the 5 users at the moment, the email and web server looks great but will try and getting it running 100% as file server and domain controller first.

Interestingly I downloaded 6.5 beta to try and installed it one 2 machines, and got the same problems on both:

The index bar down the left side (Users,Groups,Quotas etc) showed up and then another lot the same appeared in the main window.

Clicking on Users I was able to access the next screen (very slow), but was unable to access anything else.

I have gone with 6.01 and it seems great.

Thanks again and have one on me  :pint:


Smallstool
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smallstool

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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2005, 12:09:20 AM »
Many thanks again using 6.01 and its running great, have got all machines on domain now (except XP home box) and my little m1000 mini-itx seems to be lapping it up!
 :-)

addodge

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2005, 05:19:51 AM »
I have smoothwall too, and am having a few issues with routing.  I was wondering if you could help a brother out  :-)
smoothwall is setup red, orange, green
red = external ip
green = 192.168.1.1 =>hawking wireless router
orange = 192.168.2.1
the wireless router is setup to give out dhcp in the 192.168.2.1 range.
The problem i am having is i cannot get sme setup so that it will access the internet through smoothwall.  I know that the orange network does not work off of dhcp so i have specified a address of 192.168.3.2 with a gateway/dns of 192,168.1.1 i have also tried a gateway/dns of 192.168.3.1 and still have no luck.  I dont want to steel the thread, but if anyone has had this setup and can shed some light i would really be happy.
Thanks
Andy