Topic: Nukes !?!

[Ron]

What to use and why.

myphpnuke
phpnuke
postnuke

Thx in advance!

Ron

[guestHH]

Hi,

All are ok, BUT;

myphpnuke= very fast developement maybe too fast
phpnuke=first fork, maintained by only 1 person
postnuke=open development, little slower but reviewed by many developers

Personal opinion (if that is ok...?) Postnuke

Regards,
guestHH

[Ron]

Personal opinions are ok

Thx RequestedDeletion,

Ron

[Steve MacGregor]

Ron,

I can't even come close to being objective as I am one of the PostNuke developers, but I have got to say it is a very good product. The support ranges from good to unbelievable, the releases are fairly regular and very comprehensive, the options are huge, and most importantly it is the warmest and most cheerfull OS development community I have come across dispite the fact that there are, give or take, 120 of us.

We will be releasing a major upgrade in the next few weeks which will put a little more distance between PostNuke and it's competition. In the mean time, our current release is secure and stable and easy as pie to set up on e-smith/mitel servers with or without the great how-to's. The install script does everything for you except chmod 2 files. You will be surprised how many subdomains you can end up with

Contact me offlist and I will throw you the keys to one of my test sites so you can take a spin.

regards,

Steve MacGregor
PostNuke Documentation
http://docs.postnuke.com

Did i hear you say you wanted to help out with the documentation project??

[daithikuk]

again, a personal opinion.
i have to agree with steve, postnuke a super product, easy to set-up & administer and has great support available.

[Mahmood Al-Yousif]

All are good. I've used every one of these CMS packages over the last couple of years, my personal opinion is PostNuke is the leader of the pack at the moment, and judging by the amount of active developers it has (about 120) it is the best bet for the future as it is extremely frustrating to discover that you have outgrown your CMS and want to go to a better system.

PostNuke has many advantages: (1) immediate attention is given to any security issues that might be discovered, (2) excellent support from the community, (3) published road-plan, (3) dynamic and non-selfish leadership, hence easier to get your ideas adopted and enacted.

I run the following sites on PostNuke:

http://www.mahmood.tv (the first EVER PostNuke site! Initially it was hosted on my e-smith 4.0 server at home!)
http://www.bahraini.tv (second PN site!!)
http://www.alyousif.tv
http://frances.alyousif.tv
http://amna.alyousif.tv
http://hanan.alyousif.tv
http://arif.alyousif.tv
(all the alyousif.tv domains are hosted currently on my esmith 5.1.2 server at home through a 384k/64k ADSL line at home)
http://www.computerpoint.tv

Have a look at them, almost everyone is designed for a different kind of user.

Hope this helps...

[Hervé]

I am a newbie in the SME environment, as far as my opinion can be taken into account, I found postnuke to be a great concept.
Sorry for my english, I am french speking !.

[Garret]

Post Nuke is very nice, the one problem seems to be that it continues to be plagued with many of the same security issues that PHP-Nuke is.

No body should argue the point that myPHPNuke is the most secure of the bunch, and the most integrated i.e., no pluggins to install and keep track of.

Oh, did I say I was a myPHPNuke developer?

[Ron]

Man are there a lot of developers for Nukes here

I have to say PostNuke is my first choice wright now
(have to try it tough).

Thanks Steve MacGregor for the trust giving me the admin account to look around

I will give it a try and maybe another one is better for me who knows
Thx all !

Ron

[Stuart]

Nuke and it's various folks are good but the in-fighting and endless crap about how much better one is over the other was a pain. Also there are those who claim the security ain't that good.

Anyway I came across this XOOPS in this forum some time ago. Its HOT!, Secure and does everything the nukes do and a bit more. It is only in Release Candidate 2 stage right now but it works really well on SME 5 and above.

You can find it at http://xoops.sourceforge.net .

If you can wait for a little while the production model should be out soon enough.

Regards,

Stuart

[Garret]

"Also there are those who claim the security ain't that good."

I'd be interested to see where myPHPNuke's security isn't that good. Many have challanged it to this point, and NONE have found a security hole.

xOOPS is build on myPHPNuke, and started out as myPHPNuke-SE, until it broke off and went on it's own.

"various folks are good but the in-fighting and endless crap about how much better one is over the other was a pain"

encase you missed it earlier, xOOPS is a fork of PHP-Nuke also, through myPHPNuke. Does the fact that it's not called a "Nuke", make it not so?

Garret

[Mahmood Al-Yousif]

Hehe.. I was afraid that this thread will decend into the "mine is bigger than yours" syndrome, but that's expected I guess.

From my point of view, I would download, install, test and use all of them. Then choose whatever suites you best. Heck, they're all free!

There are arguments for/against on every product. I personally prefer PostNuke for the reasons I stated previously and it's ability for infinite configurability and customization which makes it ideally suited for a lot of applications.

For instance, I have PostNuke installed in my office as a "knowledgebase" center where all documents, articles, prices, etc are in one place for all the users to get instantly. I didn't need several modules like the downloads, avantgo, and other bits and pieces, just a straightforward install without any bells and whistles.

For Bahraini.tv I've installed the necessary modules to facilitate a "community" website.

Again from my personal experience as far as security is concerned, I have found the PostNuke team very responsive to any security holes that are discovered, and if you read the developers' lists, you will find that they actually unselfishly propegate that information to other *nuke based engines including PHPNuke to bring it to those developers attention.

Now as for the future, the published roadplan is really fantastic and has everything I need and am happy to grow with it. I don't have to install every upgrade that is released, but I find that the upgrades either add functionalities, squash bugs discovered in the interim or patch whatever security holes that have been discovered.

No CMS system can claim to be the be-all and end-all product, not even ones costing several thousands of dollars... however, I find PostNuke to be well worth having and is a joy to operate.

[Garret]

Also,

Let me state that the developers of myPHPNuke and the developers of Post Nuke have always gotten along and truly seem to apprciate the differences in our applications. If you are looking for a module based sollution, Post Nuke is without doubt the best choice, IMHO.

[Ron]

Wow, did I start something

No serieus, I try PostNuke first (because I'm new to this and it looks the most safe for me - I'm no Linux Guru) I want it plain and simple
And what the h*ll, I try another one if I don't like it

I have to say that I think it is a good thing developers of different "Nukes"
talk to each other. I haven't heard from one of the developers pulling down another "Nuke" (even in private mail). That tells a lot of the people working on this "Nukes"

Thanks all for pointing me in a direction, and that is that there in no general nr. 1 Nuke!
I try them out starting with Postnuke (see above why this is the first choice for me)

My opinion, there ia a Nuke for everyone

Again thanks all

Ron