Topic: VMWARE and SME-V5

[Chaloner Hale]

I wanted a way to do offline demos of ecommerce systems and a friend of mine suggested trying a 30day eval of VMWare from www.vmware.com.

I downloaded the program and installed it under W2K on my Armada laptop in server only mode.

Works just fine. Once you load the virtual machine under windows, you can then install and run SME just like on any other machine. When connected to my internal network I have access to the samba shares and access to any web sites on the laptop by going to its local ip.

I transfered over a site wiht SSH and it ran just fine. I installed the latest blade with no problem.

I setup SSH on the laptop and it allows me to transfer files to the virtual machine with no problems.

Nice piece of work.


Chaloner Hale

[Joe]

It's nice...but only for testing. I wouldn't like to have an stable system (linux) running on an unstable (windows) system.

Regards,
Joe

[guestHH]

Hi,

I can simply just confirm this, just like many other developers, maybe even at Mitel

Regards,
guestHH

[Grub]

Yes... ok... but  have you seen the price. Would buy an other pc for less.
And there are other options, when I see the picture from the vmware site, with this guy staring at a dozen monitors.
An other thing is that you are always dependant from them of OS support.
It is better than before... but still.
All taken... A REAL GOOD product.

[schotty]

I hate this "unstable windows talk"....
There is the right tools (os) for the right job.

I use XP for all multimedia stuff.... from cutting films....listening to music, ripping cds.....I am admin from nt4 & w2k PCs, server admin to nt4 servers.... but I dont really see windows as unstable!!! I also use Xp with vmware und host different linuxes......

Oh yes I did forget to mention.....-before i get flamed..... I just love linux...I have a esmith server (i was bored an installed it....and now i just love it!!), and a redhat 7.2 data server....


lets keep the forums clean of unfounded remarks!!

[Andrei Taylor]

I think sometimes that NT4 left a bad taste in a lot of sys admins mouths. I remember having to script nightly reboots for a few of my work production servers. Simply because windows had memory leak issues it has come a long way since then. Now if they could just fix there pricing and licensing.

As for VMWare I saw a demo of there whole product line at a trade show and I have to say that there GSX and ESX servers are truly amazing. The ESX server even has it's own kernal not windows or unix. The only problem I have had personally with VMware is that it can bring even a 15K rpm scsi hard drive to it's knees if you have to many VM's running at once.

[Les Mikesell]

Yes, anyone young enough to not have had experience with NT might not understand the Windows reputation for instability.  Win2k with all the service packs installed is pretty reliable.    One advantage of VMware for testing something like SMEserver is that you can configure one emulated NIC as bridged and the other host-only, then set up other instances that act as client machines with host-only networking to emulate the LAN clients behind the SME gateway.  You'd need several machines and a private network setup to do this otherwise.

[Monty]

Are you telling me that you actually have a stable XP machine doing all that MS claims of it's new OS. I am impressed. I will admit that by inlarge it is the most stable (off the shelf) OS that MS has put out. It still is not quite the admin's dream come true. As for Graphics and video editing,, well we'll save that for another chat room.

The VM product rocks!!!!! It runs under just about any host OS but after testing it on Mandrake, RedHat, XP Pro, Win2k pro, Win2k srv and even Win98, I would have to say that overall the Linux hosts took a comanding leed with Win 2k srv and Win 2k Pro fallowed very close by XP Pro. Now keep in mind that this power user's PC is decked out with SCSI everything and a 15k RAID-5 160. IDE is not an option for me. I am also a high end graphics/video/audio user.

Well I must say, a Vertual Machine discusion wouldn't be complete without mentioning the Mac OS-X running Vertual PC on a Titanium 667 with 1 gig RAM. Yellow Dog looks great as does Win XP and Win 2k as guest OS's.