Topic: Microsoft Bought RAV Antivirus

[Dan Williams]

This ought to be interesting...
http://www.ravantivirus.com/index.php
Dan

[Greg]

Hmmm,
Then we can wave goodbye to Linux AV support by RAV.....
Greg

[guestHH]

sad news, just sad....

[Ulises Ruiz]

yes williams saw this is VERY, VERY BAD NOTICE.

[John Helms]

This news makes me physically ill!
Be sure and let RAV know how you feel about this. I already have. I work in an IS department at a Community Health Clinic and we JUST implemented RAV from MyEzserver using a E-Smith mail server and are VERY happy with it.
I'm sure Microsoft will screw that up totally.
Please make your opinions known!

[Jean]

Did MS buy the whole company or just a license to use their engine?  If the latter, we'll have a year or two before MS feels comfortable enough to take over that market too.

[Cyrus Bharda]

Ahem,

Why bother getting upset? I am using several products that were bought by Micro$oft and still work just as good as they did before the buyout. Until the product actually suffers as a direct result of management from Mirco$oft, why complain?

I use RAV here and am happy with it, but if I find that its level of quality diminishes, then of course I am going to switch to something that is better, not going to wine and moan about it because there is nothing we can do about it.

If you don't like using Micro$oft products, then change to something that you find does the job more efficiently and if/when you cannot find one then just accept the fact that you have to use their products and instead of pouring huge amounts of time and effort into statements like "Oh I hate Micro$oft products because they are a monopolising company and all their products suck"!

I am not endorsing Micro$oft in any way shape or form, I do not like some of their products either, but in most cases I have not yet found anything that can do the job in a similar manner so I just deal with the inherent flaws in some, the end justifies the means.

But that is just my 2 cents worth, not meaning to start a flame thread that does not belong here.

Flames accepted offlist though

Cyrus Bharda

[Jean]

Thanks, Cyrus, for clearing that up.  I was uncertain what attitude I should have.

[Jean]

Once again, does anyone know for sure whether the whole company is being bought out?  Their press release says "Microsoft will acquire GeCAD’s antivirus technology."  This sounds like a licensing deal where GeCAD remains in control of their product.

[Darrell May]

You may wish to follow this thread:

http://myezserver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=321

Regards,

Darrell

[Darrell May]

Oops, wrong thread... try this one:

http://myezserver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=387

Regards,

Darrell

[Cyrus Bharda]

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,6578888%5e16123%5e%5enbv%5e,00.html

Microsoft buys antivirus firm
Helen Jung and staff writers
JUNE 11, 2003  
 
MICROSOFT will acquire Romanian anitvirus maker GeCAD Software, taking its first step into the security software market.

GeCAD makes a mail server product, among other applications, which runs on a variety of platforms including Linux.
Microsoft signed an agreement to buy the intellectual property and technology assets of the Bucharest-based company for an undisclosed amount. Some of the company's software developers will join Microsoft, but details haven't been finalised, said Mike Nash, corporate vice president of Microsoft's security business unit.

See link for full story......

Cyrus Bharda

[Dan Williams]

The best and most accurate source of news on this is at the vendors website. At this time there are two press release links that give a good indication of what is happening.
Go to the source for the answers.
Dan

[John Helms]

"Why bother getting upset? I am using several products that were bought by Micro$oft and still work just as good as they did before the buyout. Until the product actually suffers as a direct result of management from Mirco$oft, why complain?"

I not terribly concerned about Microsofts current products, I abhor their stuff. Its not "their" products that suffer as a result of this. Its their soon to be competitors, (Symantec, McAfee etc.), their customers, and my users who will suffer as a result of this purchase.

"If you don't like using Micro$oft products, then change to something that you find does the job more efficiently"

I did, its called Qmail with RAV, not the soon to be bundled Exchange with RAV. (puke)

"if/when you cannot find one then just accept the fact that you have to use their products and instead of pouring huge amounts of time and effort into statements like "Oh I hate Micro$oft products because they are a monopolising company and all their products suck"!"

Remember to walk in a nice straight line and keep silent while you march to the ovens eh??

"I am not endorsing Micro$oft in any way shape or form, I do not like some of their products either, but in most cases I have not yet found anything that can do the job in a similar manner so I just deal with the inherent flaws in some, the end justifies the means."

Ja ja, the economy is doing zer gut since that Microsoft came to power!

"But that is just my 2 cents worth, not meaning to start a flame thread that does not belong here.
Flames accepted offlist though "

I would say its a bit less than 2 cents worth there. You're so off base with your comments that your post deserves a straight response....in public....not offlist.
Microsoft is continuing on with their illegal monopolistic bundling tactics here. In one small purchase they have severly damaged Open Source mail servers, several vendors of RAV, purchasers of RAV, Linux in general, ALL other anti-virus solution providers, and even their own customers who were being provided great anti-virus protection by a great product. Once RAV is "assimilated" into the Microsoft product line we will see even more pressure to use Exchange as a mail solution. Now THAT is truly a nightmare!

[Cyrus Bharda]

John,

God helps us, Micro$oft bought an anti-virus company, the sky is falling, the sky is falling!

I bet you complained when Time-Warner bought EMI and when Singtel bought Optus Cable and Wireless and when your local community grocery store got taken over by the bigger commercial shopping centre!

There are heaps of detrimental big corporate multinational company buying out small time operations, and some of them lead to huge socio-economic downturns to the local/national economy, are you going to complain about each and every single one of them, or just hone your narrow mindedness down to one single company, just because it is easy to?

There has got to be other AV products for Linux, so why not go out, find and try them?

There are a lot of alternatives to Micro$oft products, that was my point!

And if people put the time they spent moaning and groaning about Micro$oft products, into trying out new software then they would find much better solutions, that is how I found out about SME, no amount of wingeing from me lead to my discovery, I went out and actively sought out a replacement for my windows 2k/exchange box, and found it!

But you just keep thinking that we all will be eventually assimilated into Micro$oft and be _forced_ to use their products at gunpoint by armies of men in Micro$oft uniform, none the less, thats a great attitude to have!

And you are right is way more than 2 cents, maybe even 3

Cyrus Bharda