Topic: cfdisk for sme

[snoop]

Hi,

I can't find cfdisk on SME.
Why isn't it included?
There is one at rpmfind.net
(http://www.rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/contrib/libc6/i386/cfdisk-glibc-0.8g-1.i386.html)
But there it says: "Distribution: Own, based on Slackware 3.1".
Can you tell me if I can use it anyway?
I'm using 6.0beta3 with all updates applied.

Thank's a lot.

[Tom Haynes]

I claim this will not work. Slackware 3.1 was current in 1996 or so. It is getting a little dated...

[Charlie Brady]

snoop wrote:

> I can't find cfdisk on SME.
> Why isn't it included?

Because there is no need for it.

Charlie

[snoop]

Charlie Brady wrote:

> Because there is no need for it.

Hello Charlie,

why not?

Even the manpage of fdisk doesn't recomend using it.


BUGS
       There  are  several  *fdisk programs around.  Each has its problems and strengths.  Try them in the order cfdisk,
       fdisk, sfdisk.  (Indeed, cfdisk is a beautiful program that has strict requirements on the  partition  tables  it
       accepts, and produces high quality partition tables. Use it if you can.  fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy
       things - usually it happens to produce reasonable results. Its single advantage is that it has some  support  for
       BSD  disk labels and other non-DOS partition tables.  Avoid it if you can.


I don't want to kick of a religious war about which partition tool to use.
I only used cfdisk before and when looking for the usage of fdisk I read the above.
So now I'm just a bit unsure about fdisk.

cu
snoop

[Michael Soulier]

snoop wrote:
>
> why not?
>
> Even the manpage of fdisk doesn't recomend using it.

Neither do we, on a system that is already partitioned. Why do you require a partitioning tool on a system that is automatically partitioned by the installer?

Mike

[Charlie Brady]

snoop wrote:

> > Because there is no need for it.
...
> why not?

I would have thought that was obvious. Obviously not.

An SME server can (and usually does) go through its life without a command line partitioning tool being used. Hence there is no need for cfdisk.

If you need cfdisk,  you can add it.

> Even the manpage of fdisk doesn't recomend using it.

a) that doco could be out of date
b) fdisk isn't used in the product either.

Charlie

FWIW, I like sfdisk.

[Michiel]

>> Neither do we, on a system that is already partitioned. Why do you require a
>> partitioning tool on a system that is automatically partitioned by the installer?

Because life goes on after installation. Disks fill faster than you can say "upgrade" and adding a second/third/fourth disk require some kind of partitioning tool. Sure, there are other ways to solve that, but I find it quite handy to have fdisk pre-installed. Not sure though what the added value would be of cfdisk.

[snoop]

Michiel you're right.
That's exactely what I intended to do. Adding a (brand)new Disk which isn't partitioned already.

Well, Charlie, you have to apologise but - maybe due to my not so good understanding of english - I found your answer a bit offending.
I only wanted to understand if there is a reason why cfdisk isn't included because I think it's very comfortable.

Thank you.

[Charlie Brady]

snoop wrote:

> Well, Charlie, you have to apologise...

No, I don't.

Regards

Charlie

[Reinhold]

Calm down guy's   ... f-diskin ain't all that hard

Charlie,
I'd buy you a BUD...& here's my (very own)(cultural) translation of this remark:
>>Well, Charlie, you have to apologise but - maybe due to my not so good understanding of english ...
"Well, Charlie, excuse me, but - maybe due to my not so good ..."

Be assured "snoop" didn't actually ask you to apologize ... he's just ...well "still "unsure""
why you (MITEL) guys do think it's not necessary... since "WE" "ALL" have "more" than 1HD .


snoop,
- believe me - charlie did give you even 2 answers without offense.

"Charlie >>FWIW, I like sfdisk." ... is the one you should take.

I know this still is't in the product but ...
"Would you want to recommend potentially lethal tools
after you have designed your SME-product with great pains
and successfully removed the need for a partitioning "shotgun"
- here named 'fdisk' or 'cfdisk' or 'sfdisk' ... or whatever ".

"I LIKE E-SMITH" : Reinhold

P.S.: (en Pistols available here :

[snoop]

Reinhold wrote:
> I'd buy you a BUD...& here's my (very own)(cultural)
> translation of this remark:
> >>Well, Charlie, you have to apologise but - maybe due to my
> >>not so good understanding of english ...
> "Well, Charlie, excuse me, but - maybe due to my not so good
> ..."

That's exactely what I intended to express.

> P.S.: (en Pistols available here :
>

Thank you!

[Charlie Brady]

Reinhold wrote:

> P.S.: (en Pistols available here :

Make mine "trois pistole":

http://www.unibroue.com/produits/3pistoles.cfm



Charlie

[Reinhold]

@charlie: ahh my favourite (off-) topic:

BUD to stay in line "fdisk" must be like 'hoegardens "le fruit défendu"'
http://www.belgianstyle.com/mmguide/example/label.php3?img=vrucht.jpg&beer=Verboden+Vrucht
for you Mitel "officials"...

and if you 2 had continued it would end like:
http://www.belgianstyle.com/mmguide/example/label.php3?img=subite.gif&beer=Mort+Subite

... enjoy !!!

Reinhold