Topic: A version for Home Networks!!

[James]

I reckon there should be a version for a home network, which doesn't need a domain name, etc. Plus make it easy to run and use, like Windows but stable.

[trevor]

James wrote:
>
> I reckon there should be a version for a home network, which
> doesn't need a domain name, etc. Plus make it easy to run and
> use, like Windows but stable.

For a home network you can use a dummy domain name (ie. not registered) and operate quite effectively. Use fetchmail (as per Stephen Nobles howto ftp://ftp.e-smith.org/pub/e-smith/contrib/StephenNoble/RPMS/noarch/readme-pop.html or Vincents fetchmail panel, which I use, from http://www.chez.com/vinc28/fetchmail.html) for retrieving everyones individual mail, add an ibay as a shared drive and then you can start playing with MP3's, Galleries etc.

Trevor B

[Scott Smith]

trevor wrote:
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> James wrote:
> >
> > I reckon there should be a version for a home network, which
> > doesn't need a domain name, etc. Plus make it easy to run and
> > use, like Windows but stable.
>
> For a home network you can use a dummy domain name (ie. not
> registered) and operate quite effectively.

Also, it is not that hard to setup dynamic dns. (I prefer DNS2Go, which is not one to the out-of-the-box offerings, but works nicely.) Once this is setup, you can host your own e-mail, publish a web site, etc. (Assuming you are talking about a home network with Internet access.)

The only caveat in using a "dummy" domain is to ensure that your email CLIENT uses a valid domain and return address -- preferably your ISP's domain and your address at the ISP. Many email servers are rejecting mail if they cannot get a reverse lookup on the sender's domain.

Scott

[James]

Hi, what i want is a simple setup in which i can share the net over dial up, and use my existing Outlook Express setup for e-mail. In other words bypassing the e-mail setup in e-smith so e-smith doesnt worry about downloading the mail for me. Plus i dont want a domain.

[Scott Smith]

James wrote:
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> Hi, what i want is a simple setup in which i can share the
> net over dial up, and use my existing Outlook Express setup
> for e-mail. In other words bypassing the e-mail setup in
> e-smith so e-smith doesnt worry about downloading the mail
> for me. Plus i dont want a domain.

Install e-smith, make up a domain name for the server (xxx.xxx would work, or james.local, or whatever.) You're not registering a domain or publishing it, you're just filling in a blank. Then change the email retrieval settings so that mail is never collected, and you should be good to go.

Scott

[James]

Thanks for the help. But i have a 56k connection and a 350mb file is going to take ages to download but I will, in time. At the moment I thinking about using Red Hat Linux 7.1, and use E-smith as a backup or something.

[stephen noble]

James wrote:
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> Thanks for the help. But i have a 56k connection and a 350mb
> file is going to take ages to download but I will, in time.
> At the moment I thinking about using Red Hat Linux 7.1, and
> use E-smith as a backup or something.

look for a $10 cd version
i think your nuts trying to configure rh7.1 or any other type of linux

you NEED a domain, if you are sharing the line you must have other users
a domain makes it easy to sort mail
i'm trying to work out how to to offer subdomains real cheap

e-smith is still a bitch for dialups
my e-smith-isp rpm is mostly working again see the contrib howtos

my rpm's are intended to make e-smith more home network friendly

stephen

[stephen noble]

> my e-smith-isp rpm is mostly working again see the contrib
> howtos

that will be ver 0.3-1 when it turns up at the ftp site
don't use the 0.2-x

[Duncan]

If you only want to share an internet connection and collect mail from your isp, go for Smoothwall.

20 meg download size, firewall (with logging), proxy and caching, intrusion detection, manual dial and disconnect (via browser), support for adsl (ethernet and usb), ISDN and 56K connections and an online update process.

Installation process is a breeze and all your configuration is done via your web browser.

Be aware though it has no facility for anything else.

http://www.smoothwall.org
current ver 0.9.9

Regards Duncan

[Steven]

Hi James,
I've noticed a number of people have been asking the same question in various threads for quite a while without getting the answer they want.

They just want a linux box to replace a windows box.
A file sharing server with an Internet connection sharing gateway
No frills that passes port 110 and 25 the same as port 80
and lets outlook express work as before.

Doesn't seem to be a simple solution using e-smith or someone would have posted it.

[Les Mikesell]

Several people have already posted that it works as-is.  Just install it with a dummy domain name that will only be used for the local net and configure your email programs to talk directly to your ISP account(s) - port 110 and 25 are passed outbound just fine.   You can ignore the services you don't want to use on the e-smith box.

[steven]

Have a feeling access to port 25 and 110 was blocked during one of the updates.

Tried e-smith as it looked like a simple secure solution that would save me time.

Unfortunately the windows email clients behind the firewall were using a myriad of different mailservers. Changing to e-smith SMEServer-5.0_Update2-07 killed them all.

Started looking into fixing it but I don't have enough spare time at the moment.

Have gone back to what I was using before.

Apart from the email problem e-smith looks pretty good.

[Buddy Edwards]

James if you are needing a basic dialup router I would suggest FreeSco it worked well for me in the past before I had dedicated internet access.  It dialed up and disconnected just like it was designed to do and the distro fit on a floppy it works better if you put a small harddrive in the machine for quicker boot time and caching.

[Wietse]

Hi,
I am using the e-smith server and gateway at home for quite a while without any problems. Installing wasn't difficult at all, using a so-called "dummy" domain. I only inserted a VGA-card and 2 networkcards, and within an hour all was set up. The built-in DHCP server provides IP-adresses for my network, and they had immediate internet connection as if it was a direct connection. No prob at all!

After that, I started to look at the documentury closer, and found out about the i-bays (usable as FTP-accounts), SSH (external access) and even internal email (which I don't use, but it works, hehe).

I have a dedicated connection (cable), and it's on 24/7 now.

Just to let you know it IS possible, and for me quite easy!

Greets,
Wietse