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Configuring Windows to access SME

Money-Poo2

Configuring Windows to access SME
« on: February 20, 2004, 03:26:41 PM »
I'm running XP Pro and SME Linux.
The SME box runs just fine - I can access it fully under Win98 and Win NT4. I'm having difficulty accessing via XP Pro.

My server (zeus) is the Linux box.

I enclose the relevant info. Can anybody assist?

I pinged zeus (192.168.40.10) and came up with nothing under the name
but with a response under the number.

I set the Local Area connection up as
IP 192.168.40.12
aubnet mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway 192.168.40.10
DNS Server 192.168.40.10
Wins server 192.168.40.10

Zeus (192.168.40.10) is setup to recognise 192.168.40.11 through
192.168.40.14

Zeus works. No problem with Zeus - my NT box and my 98 box both work well
with it.

The only way I can access files is via Internet Explorer FTP which means I
can read but not write :(


Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>net view
There are no entries in the list.


C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ping zeus
Ping request could not find host zeus. Please check the name and try again.

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ping 192.168.40.10

Pinging 192.168.40.10 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.40.10:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ip config
'ip' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.12
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10

PPP adapter Freeserve:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.78.86.195
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.78.86.195

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>

PaulM

Configuring Windows to access SME
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2004, 04:11:29 PM »
Hey M-Poo

Are u using static ip for any particular reason? If not change to dynamic for simplicity. What is your ppp conection ? Have you set the ip etc statically on your ppp(dial up?)and if so why?  Sounds like your dns resolution is heading off through your ppp for some  fun! Try disabling your ppp conection and see if that works, then work backwards from there.

PaulM

 :lol:

Money-Poo2

stuck
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2004, 05:37:09 PM »
<i>Are u using static ip for any particular reason? If not change to dynamic for simplicity. What is your ppp conection ? Have you set the ip etc statically on your ppp(dial up?)and if so why? Sounds like your dns resolution is heading off through your ppp for some fun! Try disabling your ppp conection and see if that works, then work backwards from there.</i>

I'm using a static IP principally because my whole network works on static IPs. The IP on my dial-up is dynamic. I was dialled up when I did the ipconfig. I've tried using the server both when I'm dailled up and when not. It still doesn't work.

The problem is XP, not the server. Microsoft has ensured that XP Pro is a major headache. I was tossing up whether to go for Mac or a Windows box when I built this computer. I was only 65% sure that I needed a Windows box as opposed to Mac. I need XP Pro to work properly (if that's possible with Windows).

MP

Money-Poo2

Latest news and I'm still stuck!
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2004, 09:43:17 PM »
I can still only use Internet Explorer to ftp my server. I cannot do anything else with it.
I can access via putty and ping but that's about all - except from httping the server manager page.

Well, I added
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\netlogon\parameters]
"RequireSignOrSeal"=dword:00000000
to the registry but I still cannot map the network drive. It still tells me it's not there. I tried pinging zeus and it worked. These are the new ping and ipconfig logs
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ping zeus

Pinging zeus [192.168.40.10] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.40.10: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.40.10:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.11
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>

if config on zeus brings up

login as: root
root@zeus's password:
Last login: Fri Feb 20 17:01:23 2004 from pc-00011
Welcome to the Mitel Networks SME Server.
[root@zeus root]# ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:01:02:A5:2B:5F
          inet addr:192.168.40.10  Bcast:192.168.40.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/139
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:3980 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:5283 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0
          RX bytes:288311 (281.5 Kb)  TX bytes:5329638 (5.0 Mb)

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:0/0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0
          RX bytes:471 (471.0 b)  TX bytes:471 (471.0 b)

sl0       Link encap:Serial Line IP
          inet addr:192.168.40.10  P-t-P:0.0.0.0  Mask:255.255.255.255
          UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:1856 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:127491 (124.5 Kb)

[root@zeus root]#


Zeus is set up to permit only access from
192.168.40.11
192.168.40.12
192.168.40.13
192.168.40.14


Zeus will only map a network drive to 98 and to NT. XP rejects it as unknown.

All the systems run Outpost. Outpost is setup identically on all system, allowing access from 192.168.40.xx

Anonymous

Configuring Windows to access SME
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2004, 02:15:07 AM »
Could you run ipconfig /all and post that.

Money-Poo2

ipconfig \all
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2004, 02:45:17 AM »
This is with the server switched off but I'm online via the XP dial-up

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : apollo
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-26-F8-23
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.11
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10

PPP adapter Freeserve:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.1.164
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.1.164
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.95
                                            195.92.195.94
        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>

This is ipconfig /all with both server and internet on simulteneously

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : apollo
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-26-F8-23
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.11
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10

PPP adapter Freeserve:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.1.164
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 217.134.1.164
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.95
                                            195.92.195.94
        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>

duncan

Configuring Windows to access SME
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2004, 03:02:47 AM »
I dont see a wins server setting on the XP machine. You need to add it under the advanced tab in your TCP/IP properties.

Money-Poo2

wins server
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2004, 01:53:48 PM »
Ah. Now I don't have a Wins server setting setup on SME either.

It seems to want an IP address.

Should that be the same as my server IP address (192.168.40.10) or should it be different?

MP

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Configuring Windows to access SME
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2004, 03:00:38 PM »
Dear Money-Poo2

Is that you Rhys, or am I just imagining it.

Ray
...

Monkey-Poo2

Configuring Windows to access SME
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2004, 05:49:53 PM »
How'd you guess, Ray?

Was it the server name and the IP address?

Or was it the fact I've asked a question that everybody else knows the answer to except me?

MP

ergozd

Configuring Windows to access SME
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2004, 06:46:17 PM »
In your Network prefernces enter your SME servers IP-adress (192.168.40.10) as your WINS server.

Good luck.

Monkey-Poo2

Still not there yet
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2004, 07:48:08 PM »
I'll recap. The configuration is:
XP Pro connects to the Internet via a modem and to the server via Cat5 at 100mbps. I set the wins configuration but something's still missing as I still cannot map the server drive

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : apollo
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth
ernet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-61-26-F8-23
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.11
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10
        Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.40.10

C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>

These are the settings on the server:


Review configuration
Networking Parameters
Server Mode servergateway-private
Local IP address / subnet mask 192.168.40.10/255.255.255.0
External IP address / subnet mask /255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.40.10
Additional local networks No additional networks defined
DHCP server enabled
Beginning of DHCP address range 192.168.40.65
End of DHCP address range 192.168.40.250
Server names
DNS server 192.168.40.10
Web server www.sageworld
Proxy server proxy.sageworld:3128
FTP server ftp.sageworld
SMTP, POP, and IMAP mail servers mail.sageworld
Domain information
Primary domain sageworld
Virtual domains No virtual domains defined
Primary web site http://www.sageworld
Mitel Networks SME Server manager http://zeus/server-manager/
Mitel Networks SME Server user password panel http://zeus/user-password/
Email Addresses useraccount@sageworld
firstname.lastname@sageworld
firstname_lastname@sageworld

I'm still no further advanced. My guess is that something's still wrong on XP.

The workgroup on XP is Workgroup (it's dones its own capitalisation) and workgroup on SME.

MP

oregonbob

Configuring Windows to access SME
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2004, 08:19:55 PM »
What do you see if on the XP box:

Start -> Run -> \\192.168.40.10

Does it bring up all the shares on the SME server?

I never configure WINS on any of my setups. IS your problem that you cannot see or use shares on the SME server from your new XP box?

Anonymous

Configuring Windows to access SME
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2004, 08:52:40 PM »
Quote from: "oregonbob"
What do you see if on the XP box:

Start -> Run -> \\192.168.40.10

Does it bring up all the shares on the SME server?

I never configure WINS on any of my setups. IS your problem that you cannot see or use shares on the SME server from your new XP box?


I typed the above and it came up with a warning box stating that the network location could not be reached. That's particularly interesting as immediately after I logged in via Putty as root. Then I tried again, with the same reponse. It seems that XP cannot see the server wheras the parts of XP such as ping and ftp can.

My problem is that I cannot open the folders on the server as though they were folders on my XP box. I used to be able to do this under 98. I cannot store data onto the server although I can retrieve from. I cannot locate folders using Windows Explorer as I could under 98.

MP

oregonbob

Configuring Windows to access SME
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2004, 09:02:38 PM »
You are not authenticating on server. Make a new user account on the XP box - a different user that you know normally has access to SME server. Try login to XP with that account and try Start->Run->\\192.168.xxxxxx again. Be sure the account you add has exactly same name and password as on SME.

XP new install likes to use the users full name as the login id (if you let it). Then even of you change the name it still uses the original for netlogon. On XP, try Start -> Control Panel -> Admin Tools -> Computer Management -> Local Users -> Users. The 'name' column must show exact logon name as on the SME server. Does it? Is it all lower case?