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ISP (NTL) blocks port 80 - how do I change to port 8080 ?

cyclingstu

ISP (NTL) blocks port 80 - how do I change to port 8080 ?
« on: October 11, 2004, 01:44:24 PM »
Apologies I am a newbie, and have found discussions on
this but they didn't detail how to do it :-(
Also looked at [http://no.longer.valid/phpwiki/index.php/How%20to%20change%20Apache%27s%20listening%20port%20in%20SME%20Server%205.1.2]

But I am running SME Server 6 and do not have a 80Aliases00 file so am loathe to try it :-(

Anybody done this on 6 and can tell me how ?

Many thanks in advance,

Stu[/url]

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NTL do not port block port 80
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2004, 03:54:04 PM »
Stu,

Sorry you don't seem to have much of a handle on networking. NTL do not port block port 80 at all. I would have noticed. I would have had to authorise it for starters.

Richard
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cyclingstu

ISP (NTL) blocks port 80 - how do I change to port 8080 ?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2004, 03:54:47 PM »
Many thanks byte :-)

So I have changed the port to 85 and have now used e-smith-masq-manager to open port 85. However, using a dial up account to check I can access my webserver,
http://<url>:85 I still get 504 error Gateway Timeout :-(

So am I still missing something here ?
Feeling like a complete muppet :-(

Any ideas ?

Stu

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If you ask for help
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2004, 04:33:12 PM »
Be clear what you want to achieve. You started the thread with your ISP (NTL) block port 80 which is untrue (hmm www.dickmorrell.com my website is on port 80 on an NTL IP addy).

What are you trying to achieve and why are you making life so hard ?

Ask and we'll try and help.

Let me repeat NTL do not block Port 80. As Head of Internet Security for NTL and a ESmith user of far too many years I can happily confirm this for you.
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cyclingstu

ISP (NTL) blocks port 80 - how do I change to port 8080 ?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2004, 04:47:26 PM »
Richard, you are right I don't know what I am talking about, sorry :-( And thank you, I feel both silly and unworthy ;-)

Obviously I have been listening to the wrong people, as
I got the impression that NTL either munge or block port 80 :-(

I apologise, I did not intend any offence.

OK, so I have my SME server setup as my one stop solution, i.e. providing my gateway to the internet, my firewall and my web server. As such it is connected to my cable modem and my local lan.

Now I have set up a website in an i-bay and was happily able to look at this website from my internal lan as if it was external, i.e. looking at www.<url>.<domain>, but I realised that no-one else could see it, i.e. on the net. (BTW I use dyndns).

So after wondering why this was I thought perhaps as
most ISPs don't necessarily like home users to run web server perhaps they did something to stop it. Looking around I seemed to find much discussion about blocking of ports, so I'm afraid I assumed that was my problem :-(

Anyway, having changed the port I can now see my web site from outside using <url>:85 but I now find I am
browsing my primary i-bay and not the one with my website in ?!

Obviously what I would really like is to simply serve my website through port 80 and have it seen by the outside world.

Apologies for my verbosity but I am hoping you will understand, and hopefully be better able to help me with all of the above info.

Thanks again,

Stu

cyclingstu

ISP (NTL) blocks port 80 - how do I change to port 8080 ?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2004, 04:59:37 PM »
Argh ! I am really, really sorry everybody :-((((
I am a complete muppet ! Basically I was trying a few
different avenues as suggested by this and other topics in the forum. It would appear that all I needed to do was to open the port, (80), which I have now done using e-smith-masq-manager and all is well :-)

I am so sorry for wasting people's time and obviously for posting with such an erroneous title !

Yours, eating huge spoonfulls of humble pie ...

Stu

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ok..
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2004, 05:02:30 PM »
For starters your ip on NTL cable modem shouldnt change that much. Dyndns will help you but my NTL IP has been same for 31 months so treat dhcp IP as a long lease.

In your SME server point the domain in domain manager to the ibay containing your content (the folder with the cgi-bin,files and html content).

Go to your ISP's DNS control panel editor or ZoneEdit or wherever you've hosted your domain and point www and mail and your mx at your ip. Be aware that port 25 blocking may just became a norm on all UK ISPs when I get my way in a month or two so be prepared to use a relay and an alternate port for mail (easy howto on Jesper Knudsens SME server howto page or use smtp.ntlworld.com in your email settings in SME to get around this temporarily).

Once you've told the domain manager in SME where your content is thats pretty much it ONCE your DNS TTL has refreshed. Ensure your broadband router/firewall/smoothwall/ipcop box has also got port 80 forwarded to the box on the inside and also that you've updated all your patches on Apache and all other forward facing services prior to opening a door to the big bad world. Also check permissions on any content you are making available for blogs/galleries etc on the SME server.

Thats it in a nutshell. No need to blather with ports and stuff that you mentioned before. Twas arse about face.
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