there is some echo in this post 
Not so, my friend !
I was in no way referring to your links.
Instead I just answered the first question (the way you would have done, if you had bothered to read it properly), and tried to indicate that there are possible alternatives to your link for the second one.
Now this is not criticism - it's always good with pointers to more info, but sometimes it's better to just reply to the simple question with a simple answer instead of interpreting the hell into it, confusing the issue as a result.
Anyway I'm sure El_destructo will be back, if none of us hit the mark.