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INN InterNetNewsServer on SME ?

Offline arne

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INN InterNetNewsServer on SME ?
« on: April 18, 2005, 10:23:44 PM »
Hello !

Possible a stupid question, but has anybody tried to install a INN InternetNewsServer on SME ?

I tried to install one at Fedora core 2, but it did not work out as expected. Could not log on.

Don't know if this is really a good idea, but my intention was to install a local newsserver that should not exchange new with other ervers, it should only contain a local news server function.

Could this be done on the sme server ?

Best reg Arne.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2005, 08:59:32 AM »
Seems like it can be done, while setting up news servers are not the most common thing among Linux users.

I am using a web based front portal for some news groups and I think it's working rather good: http://florian-amrhein.de/newsportal/

Because of this web application, I would like to follow up with some local news groups as well.

If anybody should be interesting in such a project, just some info I have found:

Is it possible to run just a locar news server that does not exchange datas with other news servers ??
http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html#S6.1

The homepage for the inn news server: http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/inn/

The download for sme 6.x.x:  http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/redhat-ftp/redhat/linux/7.3/en/os/i386/RedHat/RPMS/

The documentation: http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs-2.3/

Why not give it a try ?

Arne.
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Re: INN InterNetNewsServer on SME ?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2005, 12:37:55 PM »
Quote from: "arne"

has anybody tried to install a INN InternetNewsServer on SME ?


not INN, but leafnode. I have created a first RPM. Download at www.braunstein.de/ftp/linux/sme/leafnode/

install it.
Configuration via /etc/leafnode/config ASCII file.

If someone is willing to help me with a web panel, I will be glad to offer a fully integrated solution for SME Server.

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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2005, 01:04:14 PM »
Hello !

Sounds great ... but a small thing ...

I'm not much into the terminology behind the news servers yet, but I find this in the dokumentation of leafnode:

Q: Does leafnode support local newsgroups?
A: Leafnode 1.x does not support local newsgroups. Leafnode 2.x will do that.

http://leafnode.sourceforge.net/doc_en/FAQ.html#id2480177

Does this really mean that you can not use it as a local news server with your ovn news groups, or does it mean something else ??

Best reg Arne.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2005, 04:58:14 PM »
Quote from: "arne"

Q: Does leafnode support local newsgroups?
A: Leafnode 1.x does not support local newsgroups. Leafnode 2.x will do that.
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Does this really mean that you can not use it as a local news server with your ovn news groups, or does it mean something else ??


In my RPM I have compiled one of the latest Leafnode 2.x alpha versions, so local groups are supported.

See the example /etc/leafnode/loacal.groups

I just found, that you have to chown the following dirs to get it working:

Code: [Select]
chown news.news /var/spool/news/ /var/spool/news/leaf.node/

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2005, 06:51:58 PM »
That's great. I will try it for sure. I just got my sme home from my friends house for a "disaster recovery". (He has a 5 mbs symetric line while I just have an adsl with 0.5 mbs out.)

I think I will try to install your rpm tonight. (I have tried to install the INN server on a Fedora core 2, and configured a number of times, but it does not work.)

Thanks a lot for your info !

Best reg Arne.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2005, 11:46:47 AM »
I have now installed the Leafnone server on sme 6.0.1

A portscan shows that its up and running and that it identifies itself as a Leafnode 2.0 Alpha

But when I try to connect to it with a client (from an other PC) it can not connect.

Guess this is a configuration issue .. ??

Arne.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2005, 12:03:35 PM »
Sorry - this was just I firewall/router issue.

Seems to be working fine with that single default local group.

Will it by default do some automatic updates of datas from news.hiof.no ?

If I like it to be "local only" can I then just set the value of the server where it fetches external news groups to an emty string ?

Thaks a lot !

Best reg Arne - Stavanger - Norway.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2005, 06:16:08 PM »
Quote from: "arne"
Will it by default do some automatic updates of datas from news.hiof.no ?


As you can see, it is my very first RPM for the public. Of course you should change the news server address to the one of your provider or a free one in the internet (though these are very spare), *if* you want to use a public news server. Then do a first

Code: [Select]
fetchnews -f

Afterwards you can add a cronjob to start fetchnews (without the "-f") as often as you like to get updated.

If you select one or more news group from your news client, you will get one placeholder posting from leafnode and leafnode will start downloading postings of that group(s) while running fetchnews the next time.

Quote from: "arne"

If I like it to be "local only" can I then just set the value of the server where it fetches external news groups to an emty string ?


Sure.

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2005, 07:30:12 PM »
Thanks a lot !

Seems like it does the job I wanted it do do already.

I was a little bit afraid that the rpm installed some automated cron job so that my dear little homeserver would be filled up with Gigs of external datas.

I Understand that this is not the case.

By the way, this web based front end and your Leafnode rpm seems to form a rather nice pair.

http://florian-amrhein.de/newsportal

You will have a news server and a web front end with quite nice webblog/discussion group.  Just now I run the Leafnode on a sme 6.0.1 ant the nesportal on a Fedora core 2, but I guess they could easyly be included in one common server.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2005, 07:31:30 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2005, 12:48:18 PM »
Congrats, you people. A rpm on made on request.

That's why digging through the forums is fruitful: you find a rpm buried there where you don't expect it.

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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2005, 02:25:23 PM »
Quote from: "mbachmann"
That's why digging through the forums is fruitful: you find a rpm buried there where you don't expect it.


War das jetzt Ironie?

I promise, I will make it available more officially, when it is really working.

BTW: I already have requested a contrib work space on contribs.org, but no one ever replied!

The same with a german forum, which I would love to have, but no one is willing to reply and explain, why not.

mbachmann

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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2005, 02:44:19 PM »
I assure you, no irony intended. I just love finding things.

Request webspace by contacting RequestedDeletion or RonM directly. You'll find their Emails at the mailinglists.

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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2005, 03:22:50 PM »
The Leafnode runs perfectly on my SME 6.0.1, without a problem, even though it is a alpha. I also use a html front end. Works ok both of them.

Thanks a lot !

Arne.
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