Have tried as you suggested, when running the command I get a failed message for stopping the service, and then an ok message for restarting, still can't get mail to work get 'There was an error sending your message: unable to connect to smtp server localhost:25' messgae instead, it won't recieve mail either. I have removed the blacklists also to no avail, any other ideas? The install was working fine, running the swerts-knudsen install script and since one of the recent auto updates has failed to work, I had some other servers that also had mail die when this happened and have managed to get them going but can't seem to get this one working and I can't figure out why as the install and config is the same as the others that are working fine. If anyone has any ideas on how to get it going it would be appreciated.