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6.5 only recognizing half of drive on single drive install

rsmachine

6.5 only recognizing half of drive on single drive install
« on: January 02, 2006, 02:05:57 PM »
Anyone have any trouble with only getting half of the drive space available when using a single drive install. I have an 80G hard drive installed but in the primary folder it shows an available space of about 30G's.

Does anyone know how I can claim the rest of my drive space. I am new to SME and Linux so please dumb it down a little.

Thanks,

Sean

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Re: 6.5 only recognizing half of drive on single drive insta
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2006, 06:18:09 PM »
Quote from: "rsmachine"
Anyone have any trouble with only getting half of the drive space available when using a single drive install. I have an 80G hard drive installed but in the primary folder it shows an available space of about 30G's.


When you say "it shows", what does "it" refer to? It's possible that what you are reporting is a limitation of "it" - which I suspect is some form of Windows Explorer.

If you log in as root on the console, what does "df" show?

rsmachine

6.5 only recognizing half of drive on single drive install
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2006, 06:40:51 PM »
Hi Charlie

"it" is refering to the properties of the primary i-bay folder as it shows up in Windows explorer.  I have not checked the "df" you are refering to. I will do that when I get home tonight.

However, shouldn't Windows explorer show all of the available hard drive space left on the server after the installation of SME?

Shouldn't this number be closer to 75GB or more?

I could be wrong here, but I didn't think Windows had a cap of only 30GB in explorer.

Thanks,

Sean

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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2006, 10:06:56 PM »
Quote from: "rsmachine"
Hi Charlie

"it" is refering to the properties of the primary i-bay folder as it shows up in Windows explorer.  I have not checked the "df" you are refering to. I will do that when I get home tonight.

However, shouldn't Windows explorer show all of the available hard drive space left on the server after the installation of SME?

Shouldn't this number be closer to 75GB or more?

I could be wrong here, but I didn't think Windows had a cap of only 30GB in explorer.

Thanks,

Sean


Hi,

Explorer will show you the amount of available
drive space allowed for that particular ibay.
Not the actual free drive space.

Try mapping the actual drive through samba and
see what amount explorer sees.

If you of course have all of the available drive space
allocated to be used by that particular ibay, then that
would indicate the limitation of Explorer.

Scott
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rsmachine

6.5 only recognizing half of drive on single drive install
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2006, 01:45:34 AM »
Charlie,

I finally got a chance to check the "df" you refered to, and here is what it shows:

Filesystem                 1k-blocks                    Used       Available       Use%       Mounted on
/dev/hdc3                 31224972               4445108      25193728         15%       /
/dev/hdc1                    247919                   14100         221019           6%       /boot
none                            256832                         0          256832           0%      /dev/shm


Obviously the drive is only showing 30GB of space when it should be alot closer to 80GB.

How do I fix this?

Please help

Sean

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6.5 only recognizing half of drive on single drive install
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2006, 09:26:28 AM »
Hi, Sean
I'm not sure if this applies to you, but I've had a similar issue with an 'elderly' ASUS Mobo (P2BLS) a couple of years ago.
A BIOS update solved the problem for me.
Worth a try, perhaps ?
Greetings
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2006, 01:02:03 PM »
Sean,
You might also like to check a jumper setting on your disk drive. Some (most??) drives have a setting to allow the drive to be recognised as only having <32Mb, so they can be used with older bios systems.

By the jumper settings, I mean the jumpers where you set it to be Master, Slave, Cable Select etc. On my 80Gb drive, the last pair of jumpers is to limit the drive to <32Gb. Where do you find that out? Look at the label on the drive: it should tell you what the jumper setting options are.

Good luck with your problem.

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rsmachine

6.5 only recognizing half of drive on single drive install
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2006, 04:47:53 PM »
Hi guys,

I have an 80GB Western Digital hard drive that is brand new as of about 2 weeks ago. I went onto their website this morning to see if they mention anything about this problem. It appears as though there is not a jumper setting on the hard drive that selects for older mobo's. According to what they have on there, it is more than likely a bios limitation on my machine. I am using a PII 400 MMX to run my server. They recommend running a bios update (if available) to fix the problem. I suppose that running the bios update is possible with having Linux installed but can anyone run that procedure down with me (major newbie with Linux here!!) just to make sure I can do it. Also, will I have to reformat the drive in order for SME to recognize that it is a bigger drive, or will it recognize that on its own?

Thanks,

Sean

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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2006, 05:09:12 PM »
You may have to re-install after the BIOS update to claim the rest of your space.

The BIOS Update on the Motherboard manufacturers website will have instructions on how to install it.  Most likely through booting from a floppy disk.

Everything you need should be on the Manufacturer's site for the BIOS update itself.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2006, 05:10:44 PM »
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Hi guys,

I have an 80GB Western Digital hard drive that is brand new as of about 2 weeks ago. I went onto their website this morning to see if they mention anything about this problem. It appears as though there is not a jumper setting on the hard drive that selects for older mobo's. According to what they have on there, it is more than likely a bios limitation on my machine. I am using a PII 400 MMX to run my server. They recommend running a bios update (if available) to fix the problem. I suppose that running the bios update is possible with having Linux installed but can anyone run that procedure down with me (major newbie with Linux here!!) just to make sure I can do it. Also, will I have to reformat the drive in order for SME to recognize that it is a bigger drive, or will it recognize that on its own?

Thanks,

Sean


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What fun, bios update.

First determine the type of bios you have.
Enter you bios and write down all pertinent
information.

AMI Bios or Award Bios. You also need the version
of the bios.

Go to the mobo manufacturer website and look for
a bios update to your bios whether ami or award and
version number.

You will need to also download the particular software
that flashes your particular bios. Ami or Award.
You can not use the program for Ami with Award
and vice versa.

It is perhaps better to dos running for this. I haven't
found any linux bios flashers. It is best to run the
program from the hard drive and not a floppy as
any errors on the floppy could cause the flash to
not take.

If the flash does not take, you will need a new bios chip.

I am going to repeat this in CAPS.

IF THE FLASH DOES NOT TAKE, YOU WILL NEED A NEW BIOS CHIP.

This is the danger of flashing your bios and in my opinion,
it shows that an improvement needs to be made on bios chips
design.

You will need to have the file you download for your bios in
the same directory as the program that flashes the bios.
This program is called the utility.

http://www.tyan.com/support/html/how_to_flash.html

Is a page with more information on the subject.

It suggests you boot from a win95 or win98 boot
disk to perform this. Insure that the config.sys
and autoexec.bat files do not load a bunch of
utilites and memory resident garbage. You need
a basic dos environment running to do this.

You can get the utility program from this site, but
I suggest you go to the site of your mobo manufacturer
first.

The page above also gives you more details and all the
goodies you need to be aware of as well as the warning
that this should only be done by a qualified technition
which is a laugh. Why a laugh? Becuase if the bios fails
to flash for you, being a qualified technition won't make
any difference, it will fail to flash for him as well.
The only caveat to this is that the qualified technitian
may have equipment to fix the bios where you do not.

My last bit of instructions on this matter is to read read and
read again to insure you understand the directions given.
The url to the site I posted is only one of the many sites
that will instruct you on how to flash your bios more
thoroughly than what I can remember from when I did it
to my board a couple of years ago. So go there for
more detailed instructions.

Scott
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