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edlentz

Maybe a dumb question
« on: January 07, 2006, 12:27:43 AM »
Is it possible to run Wine and a windows app with SME running?  I need MSAccess running for an application I have and I would prefer to run a version of Linux

Thanks!

Ed

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Re: Maybe a dumb question
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2006, 02:37:46 PM »
Yes, It's a DUMB question.
It show you don't get the feeling about SME. Neither have looked at manuals.
SME is not a graphical distro. Do not have any X installed.
So Wine and M$ Access make no sense here.

Please move to a Fedora like distro.

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edlentz

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2006, 03:00:41 PM »
Thanks for your thoughtful reply Jader.
I have played with SME for about a month, I thought that Linux being such a flexible OS that maybe it could do both so I wouldn't need a second machine, while I used SME for what it is intended.
You have a wonderful day

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2006, 07:04:20 PM »
Quote from: "edlentz"
I have played with SME for about a month, I thought that Linux being such a flexible OS that maybe it could do both so I wouldn't need a second machine, while I used SME for what it is intended.
You have a wonderful day


Yes, Linux is a flexible OS, and there are versions that support GUI interfaces, but that is simply not what SME is all about. A Fedora-like distribution will give you what you want so far as the GUI is concerned, and it will give you all the network services that you need too (i.e. SME facilities plus some). What it won't give you is:

- The ability to run on slow hardware
- The protection of a 'light' OS running minimal services, when connected to the Internet

SME is a minimal distribution, and that is what it is designed to be. If you need more (GUIs etc) then there are better distributions to use. SME is more about what it has not got in it, than what it does have in it (ignoring the admin interfaces for now).

Out of interest, do you have any suggestions on how this can be made clearer on this web-site? I know the world of Linux can be terribly confusing for newbies.

-- JJ
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edlentz

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2006, 07:26:50 PM »
Thanks jj,
I am a noob I also have an aversion to using a machine for each different thing I need at the office.  I have a Mysql DB that I want to sync to my palm devices.  The easiest way I have found to do this is to use Ms access and Topsync, which means that I need a Windows machine also.  I also need a good file server and a CRM (I think I have centered on vTiger).  I must admit I have only perused the SME manual, tho it is dated.  I am still trying to figure out SME hence the question.  As to your question,  I don't know, I have a tendancy to skim over documentation, and maybe I have missed some info on this site that would have answered my question.  I am surprised that jader just didn't tell me to RTFM.  But, I will now and I will try to ask better questions in the future.
Thanks for giving me a better answer.

Ed

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2006, 09:05:20 PM »
So far as PHP web applications are concerned, such as CMSs and CRMs, *most* will run fine on SME, and are very easy to install (usually just a case of unzipping a file onto a Samba share). Occasionally an application will need some feature that isn't on the server, then you need to dig out the instructions to upgrade aspects of SME. There are lots of HOWTOs on this site that can guide you.
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edlentz

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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2006, 10:19:54 PM »
I've already got some PHP running and am looking at the HowTos and actually reading the manual.

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2006, 04:20:57 AM »
There are no DUMB question, just DUMB answers.

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Re: Maybe a dumb question
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2006, 12:15:41 AM »
Quote from: "edlentz"
Is it possible to run Wine and a windows app with SME running?  I need MSAccess running for an application I have and I would prefer to run a version of Linux

It's not a dumb question, though it is definitely a dumb subject header :-( Could you edit it to reflect the actual topic?

Yes, you could run WINE on the server, but you would need to install various libraries (X and others) which are not installed by default. WINE will run over a remote X connection, but the performance will not be as good as running on your local desktop.

Note that you only need the X client libraries, and not a graphical desktop, in order to run WINE on the server. You will need an X Server on your desktop.

I would certainly have some concerns about the stability of such a setup and would certainly not expose it outside the local network.
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