Topic: Server manager access

[Paul]

Hello,
Sorry for my english, i'm french

I try to run v5.0
Installation is ok, web server is ok, ftp etc... All is good.
When I try to connect server manager, my pasword is refused ! i log whith "admin" and the password is the same i gave during installation....
Impossible to connect.
I'm sure for my password : it's not a problem with "querty" or "azerty" keybord.

I've ask a friend to install v5.0, and he have the same problem.

So... Is there a tip we don't know ?

Thank you for answer.

Best regards,
Paul.

[robert]

Just to exclude the obvious:
-Can you log in with username admin and same password at the console?
-Can you log in to web-manager from the configuration menu on the server itself?

[Paul]

I can log in shell whith log root and my password
but i can't log the web manager from a web-client and the server too !

and i'm sure for my password, i can log in root....

I really dont understand :/

[Paul Lakra]

I have a very similar problem. I installed v5 about 2 weeks ago and everything re access was fine including server manager. Yesterday I went to use the system again and Server Manager was not working! All access via Telnet and SSH seems normal and I can use the SSH version of Server Mnager but I can no longer use it via a brwser. I have been playing around with user names - can this have anything to do with it?

[robert]

For Paul (1):
I think it would still be informative if you try to log in as admin (i.e. not as root) with root/admin  password. I believe that would narrow down the list of possible problems.

For Paul Lakra:
Are you prompted for login name and password in server-manager, or do you not even get that far? Are you sure it's not a DNS resolution problem?

[Paul Lakra]

For Robert.

The browser times out. I do not get as far as the log on. I wondered myself if it was a DNS problem but cannot imagine why it has arisen. I have a network of 3 PC's all running Win 98 plus the Linux box. I am running ICS on one of the PC's with the other two accessing the internet through that one. I have done nothing other than the normal Windows set up. The SME server is not set up as a DNS service. I presume the pc running ICS is performing this funtion locally. Actually - now I come to think of it I have not idea how the SME server name was resolved in the first place!

[Dan Brown]

Instead of going to http://hostname/server-manager, try http://hostname:980 or http://host.ip.address:980; see if that helps.

[robert]

> The browser times out. I do not get as far as the log on. I
> wondered myself if it was a DNS problem but cannot imagine
> why it has arisen. I have a network of 3 PC's all running Win
> 98 plus the Linux box. I am running ICS on one of the PC's
> with the other two accessing the internet through that one. I
> have done nothing other than the normal Windows set up. The
> SME server is not set up as a DNS service. I presume the pc
> running ICS is performing this funtion locally. Actually -
> now I come to think of it I have not idea how the SME server
> name was resolved in the first place!

Have you tried Dan's advice to specify IP address instead of DNS name? Also, what is the operation mode/configuration of the server? Will the http server serve up other pages? If http:///server-manager doesn't work, what happens when you request http://
By the way: why don't you let the SME server take care of internet connection sharing? Is your internet connection not supported by SME?

[Paul Lakra]

I have not tried Dan's advice yet - I'm at work and the machine is at home. I will try it in a couple of hours.

You are right to ask why I do not use SME to access the Internet - this is actually the main reason I am playing with it. The snag is I am using an adsl broadband service from Homechoice in London, England. This is newish and you connect to their box via a serial cable and in Windows there is a pseudo modem driver. I have found some stuff on the Internet about how to connect a Linux client but the e-smith server is slightly different.

If anyone out there has connected to Homechoice I am very interested in how they have done it.

[robert]

Paul Lakra wrote:
>
> I have not tried Dan's advice yet - I'm at work and the
> machine is at home. I will try it in a couple of hours.
>
> You are right to ask why I do not use SME to access the
> Internet - this is actually the main reason I am playing with
> it. The snag is I am using an adsl broadband service from
> Homechoice in London, England. This is newish and you connect
> to their box via a serial cable and in Windows there is a
> pseudo modem driver. I have found some stuff on the Internet
> about how to connect a Linux client but the e-smith server is
> slightly different.
>
> If anyone out there has connected to Homechoice I am very
> interested in how they have done it.

I think that merits a new post, though I commend your keeping a thread alive until an issue is solved. That kind of etiquette is rare on this board. And then they wonder why noone responds to their posts!
Anyway, here's an interesting post
http://www.e-smith.org/bboard//read.php?f=1&i=10641&t=10548
Could that also be the issue in your case?

[Paul Lakra]

Thanks for the kind words Robert. Not sure I deserve them but thanks anyway!

I tried Dan's suggestions and http://host_name:980 works! It gives the log in dialog followed by Server Manager, so what's wrong?

[Paul Lakra]

Sorry - forgot the other details asked for.

The server is configured to dial out but I am not using this yet. There is a normal network card to the network. The network shares work OK and are browsable from the Win 98 machines. The http server is working because I can get server manager via http://host_name:980. Up until a few days ago I could get server manager naormally.

[robert]

Hi, I think we should thank Dan that he too looks at old threads to see what's going on there. Here's something interesting:
My server's hostname is alpha.
If I'm at a computer on the server's network and point the browser to http://alpha/ the server's http server returns the index page as it should and the address bar in the browser reads http://alpha/
If I point the browser to http://alpha/e-smith-manager (I use e-smith 4.1.2) I am prompted for login name and password for  domain 192.168.1.1 (the internal interface IP address for the server), so somehow the name request is already being translated to an IP request. Now if I enter login name and password, the address bar changes to read:
http://192.168.1.1:980/
So there's that port 980 that Dan suggested you use. In my set-up any requests to e-smith-manager (which would be server-manager in SME 5) are automatically appended to include the correct port number 980.
How do you point to your server? Do you use an outside DNS service? If so, how do you specify addresses on the server? Through its fully qualified domain name, or just by the hostname (without the domain bits)? Does that make any difference as far as access to the server-manager goes? Now that you can access the server-manager, can you see anything wrong in the 'Hostnames and addresses' panel?

[Paul Lakra]

I think we are really in the nitty gritty of this now. My machine is called Lakra1. If I type http://lakra1, I get 'page not found'. If I type http://lakra1:980 I get the log in dialog box followed by Server Manager working properly.

I've had a chat to my IT guy here about what is going on and he said the default port for web browsers is 80 and therefore the SME server must somehow be switching the browser from 80 to 980, i.e. accepting a call to port 80 but replying that the browser should now use 980 or something like that. This sort of ties up with what you see on your machine. I never see any IP nos. in the address bar on my machine.

I do not if this gives you or anyone else a clue as to what is happening (or rather not happening!)?

[robert]

Paul Lakra wrote:
>
> I think we are really in the nitty gritty of this now. My
> machine is called Lakra1. If I type http://lakra1, I get
> 'page not found'. If I type http://lakra1:980 I get the log
> in dialog box followed by Server Manager working properly.
>
> I've had a chat to my IT guy here about what is going on and
> he said the default port for web browsers is 80 and therefore
> the SME server must somehow be switching the browser from 80
> to 980, i.e. accepting a call to port 80 but replying that
> the browser should now use 980 or something like that. This
> sort of ties up with what you see on your machine. I never
> see any IP nos. in the address bar on my machine.
>
> I do not if this gives you or anyone else a clue as to what
> is happening (or rather not happening!)?
Maybe we're confusing a couple of different issues here. It looks like a DNS problem can be ruled out. By the way, what happens when you point a browser on your network to:
http://lakra1/server-manager (this should be equivalent to http://lakra1:980)
This may be a bit too obvious, but do you have a page called index.html in the root folder of your web server (/home/e-smith/files/primary/html/ if I'm not mistaken)?
Another possibility is that something stopped the http server that is listening on port 80. In which case you may be suffering from either of these known bugs:
http://www.e-smith.org/bugs/index.php3?op=showBug&bugID=56
http://www.e-smith.org/bugs/index.php3?op=showBug&bugID=54