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Tribox or Selintra/Asterisk

wallyrp

Tribox or Selintra/Asterisk
« on: September 29, 2006, 01:15:46 AM »
Good Evening,

I am looking at updating my Asterisk@home box to the new version/release which is now called tribox. I currently have had good success with my phone. I currently have a Grandstream BudgetTone 101 phone that isn't picking up any time server. I've tried everything I can think of to get the dadblame thing to work with any time server. I've installed time server software on my MS 2003 Enterprise server as well as opened up holes for it to work with an external server with no success. I thought after switching over from my Linksys router back to the SME gateway configuration, that it would work better, still in the same boat.

I've said all that to say this, does anyone have any experience with this type of phone and/or know anything about time server services on with SME and Selintra? Or am I being totally stupid here and time services are already on SME, which in that case, my phone don't work with that configuration as I've already tried it.

Offline JonB

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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2006, 01:44:15 PM »
wallyrp,

My grandstream phone stopped working with the default NTP server. I now set up the phone to use pool.ntp.org but you should also be able to use your SME server as the NTP source as well.

Jon
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Offline soprom

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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2006, 10:49:53 PM »
The thread's title should be changed since it's misleading.

A comparison of Trixbox and Selintra ?

Trixbox is integrating too many options before stabilizing any current version. So it doesn't survive updates, and restoring backups do not work. After running through many re-installations because upgrade didn't work I gave up. It's been the same since version 1 (aah).

Since I prefer to concentrate on one distro (SME7) I switched to Selintra. It is a major step since it is so different from FreePBX (which is really cool and intuitive). My PBX now works.

TrixBox's forum has many, many, many questions. Most of them are unanswered. On the other hand, help is widely available for FreePBX.

Selintra answers any question promptly, professionnaly and kindly. Just this leaves Trixbox far behind. I would say, very humbly, that Selintra is a compromise between direct editing of .conf file, and web-gui. Having to edit .conf file with Trixbox is a pain. With Selintra, it's very confortable.

Both systems share a common problem : keeping up with the kernel version. It has to do with hardware if I understood correctly.

But the SME7 being what it is, I prefer to depend on folks knowledgable about SME7. Trixbox (AAH) taught me how to use a PBX. Selintra let me forget about it. Selintra is evolving, but it is usable while it gets better.

The other way around is to de-trixbox the installation of a standard Trixbox and use it as Centos/Asterisk/FreePbx installation. Then you do updates manually and you personnally deal with security.
Sophie from Montréal

Offline Franco

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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2006, 03:09:19 AM »
...and since Trixbox was just acquired, there goes your option!  :?

Offline RvLardin

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2006, 10:03:15 AM »
Her, at Firewall-Services, we are working hard to upgrade our existing install of A@H to the current trixbox. May be it will released under a rpm ...
have a look at : sme.firewall-services.com

I don't share soprom's opinion concerning SEL  vs Trixbox, Trixbox is a layer "over" the Asterisk install that gives access to FreePBX and FOP (and many other tools).
It permits to configure and monitor Asterisk without getting into the Asterisk's conf files. But Asterisk still run "under" this layer.
SELINTRA's solution is a very good job that permit to be "inside" the Asterisk administration, for me the pb will be to stick with Asterisk evolutions : If the way to change the conf changes, then the scripts to edit conf files will be unusable and SEL's team will have to rewrite all those scripts in the server-manager.

But this discussion has a lot and pro- and con- concerns.

For the moment, we are trying to fix a lot of security pb in the Trixbox install, since the originals install scripts are *very* permitive (default passwords, Mysql db rights, files permissions, ...).
Then we will work on providing an interface for web apps to use the phone capacities (targeting VTiger 5 CRM but should works with other apps).

A+,
RV.
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"Those who are willing to lose some of their essential liberties in favour of security deserve neither and will lose both."
- Thomas Jefferson .

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2006, 06:19:09 PM »
With the fonality acquisition the picture will change a lot.
If they manage the upgrading correctly, it will be a good solution.
Sophie from Montréal

Offline Daniel B.

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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2006, 05:58:28 PM »
Those how have a test server can try the two solutions and see what's the best for them. The first beta release of smeserver-trixbox is available here:

http://dedibox.firewall-services.com/downloads/smeserver/smeserver-trixbox/
C'est la fin du monde !!! :lol: